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    I'm really angry about something that happened at the gym

    Our gym at school is small. Very small. We have one flat bench, one incline bench, a leg press, and a smith machine. No squat rack.

    The gym opens the weight room at 12:00 noon. Which, in my opinion, deserves a damn punch in the face as it is.

    So I got there at 12:05 and it's still closed. So I wait. Two more people come to wait. The finally open it and me and this other guy head towards the smith machine.

    I go, "Hey, are you doing squats", thinking I would work in.

    And he goes, "No I'm benching," so I go, "Oh, could you use the (free, empty, vacant) bench so I can do squats?"

    .."No I like the Smith better for benching, I'll be done in a little"..

    So at that point I just put the pad on the bar and said, "Go use the bench. Thanks have a nice day."


    Arrogant? Yes.

    Don't care? Absolutely.

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    The smith is far better for benching than squatting. You were needlessly rude.
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    1) I changed the title of your thread.
    2) I moved it to General Chat, because it had nothing to do with weight lifting.
    3) I'd rather see someone use the smith machine for benching than squatting. Both you both made extremely poor decisions for using it at all.

    Have a nice day.
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    Far better for benching? It's the ONLY way I can do squats, period.

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    No it's not. Google 'zercher squat'. I did them until my gym got a rack and currently I'm doing them again because of a structural problem I have that is aggitated by conventional back squats. They work and they don't need that movement restricting piece of **** known as smith.
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    Hell, I know a guy who stands up with the bar and has people load plates on to it because he has no rack.

    Doesn't stop him from squatting properly, and it shouldn't stop you.

    Front squats, overhead squats, zercher squats, db squats, sandbag squats, etc, etc.
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    The funniest part is how you emphasized using the pad on the smith machine bar.

    Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leveque
    The funniest part is how you emphasized using the pad on the smith machine bar.

    Good stuff.
    LOL! I didn't even notice that.

    This thread has got to be a joke!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    1) I changed the title of your thread.
    2) I moved it to General Chat, because it had nothing to do with weight lifting.


    Why not just delete it?
    Face it: biceps are the muscle that classifies you as a muscle man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clawhammer_33
    Why not just delete it?
    I figured he might learn how to squat without a rack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clawhammer_33
    Why not just delete it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    I figured he might learn how to squat without a rack.

    True.
    Face it: biceps are the muscle that classifies you as a muscle man.

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    Do you use a pad when you do squats? What I mean is, am I supposed to? Because I never do. The bar kinda bothers me, but I've just learned to live with it.
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    I don't use a pad but I do roll my workout towel around the bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clawhammer_33
    Why not just delete it?
    Because it is too funny to delete! Two people fighting over a smith machine is pretty damn comical IMHO.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike
    I don't use a pad but I do roll my workout towel around the bar.
    You shouldn't. It's unnecesarilly dangerous and doesn't pad much.

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    Is this thread a test?

    Smith Machine? Pad? Wrong forum? 1 Millionth thread on gym incidents and anger?

    How about why is the OP mad, when he is the one who took the Smith?
    Last edited by Bob; 11-07-2006 at 01:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearwolf
    Is this thread a test?

    Smith Machine? Pad? Wrong forum? 1 Millionth thread on gym incidents and anger?

    How about why is the OP mad, when he is the one who took the Smith?

    pads are for pansies
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearwolf
    Is this thread a test?

    Smith Machine? Pad? Wrong forum? 1 Millionth thread on gym incidents and anger?

    How about why is the OP mad, when he is the one who took the Smith?
    If only there was some girl problem advice needed this thread would be complete!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivinItUp
    pads are for pansies
    I use a manta ray. Am I a pansy?

    I think that smith machines take away almost everything from squatting or benching. If you are using a pad or manta ray with a free rack it does'nt make a difference, the weight sits on your shoulders either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FighterInSnatch
    I use a manta ray. Am I a pansy?
    A Manta-Ray is fine - a pad is not.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    When I first started squatting and used a pad it really bothered me. It felt like the whole weight was pushing down right on my spinal column instead of being spread out. Maybe other people have different experiences.


    If there's a bench rack, can't you use it for squats? You just have to start a bit lower.

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    The funniest thing I've ever seen at a gym is a guy using an entire gym mat as a pad while squatting. I wanted to go over there and tell him he could squat pain-free if he simply held the bar in the groove of his traps, but I didn't want to spoil everyone's entertainment.

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    So the guy actually listened to you and left? Tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    You shouldn't. It's unnecesarilly dangerous and doesn't pad much.
    What is dangerous about it? Serious question. I'm not looking for padding, per se, looking for better load distribution and justa bit of softness (the bar cuts in a lot and I end up with popped blood vessels on my traps).
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