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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    What the hell kind of bar are you holding that your hands are so bad off from 225???

    Gloves generally make it more difficult to hold onto the bar because of material slippage and the increased circumference from the cloth. The only time I've resorted to gloves was when I had dermatitus issues and was worried about touching the bar w. open wounds. If your hands are that torn up, take better care of yourself, use chalk, and reexamine how you are holding the bar.

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    I don't have chalk at my gym. I don't use moisturizer because I don't want to have it spread to my face. Holding the bar bare at 225 lbs is total torture. I would be very impressed if anyone here can do it and not have cut-open hands. Another gym guy benched at around 250 lbs and was complaining of the same thing with the same bar. His hands were BLEEDING!!! I must be lifting hardcore bars or you guys got luxurious metal for the olympic bars.
    From 155 lbs to 200 lbs (PICS/VIDS INCLUDED)

    Height: 6'0"; BW: 202lbs; Age: 24; BF: ~11%
    155lbs [07-01-06] 176lbs [09-14-06] 179lbs [09-21-06] 182lbs [10-02-06] 184lbs [10-18-06] 186lbs [10-23-06] 187lbs [11-08-06] 189lbs [11-19-06] 190lbs [11-21-06] 191lbs [12-21-06] 194lbs [12-31-06]

    Bench: 250lbs; Squat: 350lbs lbs; Deadlift: 430 lbs

    Military: 111lbsx8; Dips: BWx30; Pullups: BWx10; WChestP: 360lbsx7; 45LegP: 470lbsx20; C Raise: 360lbs; BB Curl: 105lbsx3; Lat Pull: 195lbsx5

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Superman-
    I don't have chalk at my gym. I don't use moisturizer because I don't want to have it spread to my face. Holding the bar bare at 225 lbs is total torture. I would be very impressed if anyone here can do it and not have cut-open hands. Another gym guy benched at around 250 lbs and was complaining of the same thing with the same bar. His hands were BLEEDING!!! I must be lifting hardcore bars or you guys got luxurious metal for the olympic bars.
    Nothing in this post makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Superman
    Holding the bar bare at 225 lbs is total torture. I would be very impressed if anyone here can do it and not have cut-open hands.
    You ARE joking, right?
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    You ARE joking, right?
    Maybe he trains at a REALLY hardcore gym, where they weld swords together to make bars.

    I can only imagine how tough it is to get to the squat rack, what with the flaming oil, alligator pit, and spike trap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    You ARE joking, right?
    I don't joke about weightlifting. It is my life since July and until December 31st. I should post a picture of my hands. I got cuts and scabs all over my palms. Now you made me feel weak.

    From 155 lbs to 200 lbs (PICS/VIDS INCLUDED)

    Height: 6'0"; BW: 202lbs; Age: 24; BF: ~11%
    155lbs [07-01-06] 176lbs [09-14-06] 179lbs [09-21-06] 182lbs [10-02-06] 184lbs [10-18-06] 186lbs [10-23-06] 187lbs [11-08-06] 189lbs [11-19-06] 190lbs [11-21-06] 191lbs [12-21-06] 194lbs [12-31-06]

    Bench: 250lbs; Squat: 350lbs lbs; Deadlift: 430 lbs

    Military: 111lbsx8; Dips: BWx30; Pullups: BWx10; WChestP: 360lbsx7; 45LegP: 470lbsx20; C Raise: 360lbs; BB Curl: 105lbsx3; Lat Pull: 195lbsx5

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    Maybe he trains at a REALLY hardcore gym, where they weld swords together to make bars.

    I can only imagine how tough it is to get to the squat rack, what with the flaming oil, alligator pit, and spike trap.
    I don't see why so many people on this site make fun of others. I thought this site was above that "other" site. A lot of people here shouldn't be talking anyway. It isn't like everyone here is Mr. Olympia or even in top professional shape.

    From 155 lbs to 200 lbs (PICS/VIDS INCLUDED)

    Height: 6'0"; BW: 202lbs; Age: 24; BF: ~11%
    155lbs [07-01-06] 176lbs [09-14-06] 179lbs [09-21-06] 182lbs [10-02-06] 184lbs [10-18-06] 186lbs [10-23-06] 187lbs [11-08-06] 189lbs [11-19-06] 190lbs [11-21-06] 191lbs [12-21-06] 194lbs [12-31-06]

    Bench: 250lbs; Squat: 350lbs lbs; Deadlift: 430 lbs

    Military: 111lbsx8; Dips: BWx30; Pullups: BWx10; WChestP: 360lbsx7; 45LegP: 470lbsx20; C Raise: 360lbs; BB Curl: 105lbsx3; Lat Pull: 195lbsx5

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Superman-
    I don't joke about weightlifting. It is my life since July and until December 31st.

    Why only until Dec. 31st?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik
    Why only until Dec. 31st?
    Because I made a promise to myself in July that I would reach 200 lbs by December 31, 2006 11:59 pm or die trying. I also promised everyone I know. It is no secret I am getting huge in my office and my friends from home are shocked at my size. I have always been 140-150 lbs and always consider weak and a stick. Life is also too short. So I say screw slow gains and moderation. After 2 years of rehab, I am going to do ANYTHING to reach 200 lbs.

    From 155 lbs to 200 lbs (PICS/VIDS INCLUDED)

    Height: 6'0"; BW: 202lbs; Age: 24; BF: ~11%
    155lbs [07-01-06] 176lbs [09-14-06] 179lbs [09-21-06] 182lbs [10-02-06] 184lbs [10-18-06] 186lbs [10-23-06] 187lbs [11-08-06] 189lbs [11-19-06] 190lbs [11-21-06] 191lbs [12-21-06] 194lbs [12-31-06]

    Bench: 250lbs; Squat: 350lbs lbs; Deadlift: 430 lbs

    Military: 111lbsx8; Dips: BWx30; Pullups: BWx10; WChestP: 360lbsx7; 45LegP: 470lbsx20; C Raise: 360lbs; BB Curl: 105lbsx3; Lat Pull: 195lbsx5

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Superman-
    Because I made a promise to myself in July that I would reach 200 lbs by December 31, 2006 11:59 pm or die trying. I also promised everyone I know. It is no secret I am getting huge in my office and my friends from home are shocked at my size. I have always been 140-150 lbs and always consider weak and a stick. Life is also too short. So I say screw slow gains and moderation. After 2 years of rehab, I am going to do ANYTHING to reach 200 lbs.

    Good luck. But even if/when you hit 200 will you not continue working out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik
    Good luck. But even if/when you hit 200 will you not continue working out?
    I will continue, but a lot of things will change. I will have proven to the world that the what most people consider too hard or impossible is really possible. Hopefully my journal can inspire other hardgainers and high metabolism people that with enough hard work, it can be possible. I might change careers, I might go for more weight, I might decide to cut, who knows.

    From 155 lbs to 200 lbs (PICS/VIDS INCLUDED)

    Height: 6'0"; BW: 202lbs; Age: 24; BF: ~11%
    155lbs [07-01-06] 176lbs [09-14-06] 179lbs [09-21-06] 182lbs [10-02-06] 184lbs [10-18-06] 186lbs [10-23-06] 187lbs [11-08-06] 189lbs [11-19-06] 190lbs [11-21-06] 191lbs [12-21-06] 194lbs [12-31-06]

    Bench: 250lbs; Squat: 350lbs lbs; Deadlift: 430 lbs

    Military: 111lbsx8; Dips: BWx30; Pullups: BWx10; WChestP: 360lbsx7; 45LegP: 470lbsx20; C Raise: 360lbs; BB Curl: 105lbsx3; Lat Pull: 195lbsx5

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    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    Nothing in this post makes sense.
    Thanks man.....this was the funniest post I've read yet. Can't stop laughing now and I'm at work so people are begining to stare!

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    Well seriously though I use an $8 pair of gloves I bought at Wal-Mart. They work well and my hands are less torn up now then they used to be. The barbells at my gym are easier on the hands then some I have used at the YMCA.

    As far as the deadlifts go I can say that using gloves aids in my grip. If I don't use them I get small amounts of moisture building up between my hands and the bar (either from condensation or sweat I guess). With the gloves on I experience far less slippage. This happens with all the barbell exercises I do but I guess the deads require the best grip for me since my hand is not underneath supporting like with the bench and overhead press. Hope that helps.

    one more thing.....chalk? Does anyone find this to be a big help with the moisture problem I wrote about? My gym does not have chalk so I have not had the oportunity to try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Superman-
    I don't see why so many people on this site make fun of others. I thought this site was above that "other" site. A lot of people here shouldn't be talking anyway. It isn't like everyone here is Mr. Olympia or even in top professional shape.
    You need to relax a little there Man of Steel. If you've spent any time at all in the Online Journals, you'd know that there are plenty of people here who use a lot more weight than you - that is why I made the comment. You've only been training since July(?), so I don't know why that would be any blow to your ego...

    Honestly, I still don't understand why your hands are taking such a beating. Many of us work at near-maximal weights and don't have the problems you mention... The only time I ever have such hand problems is if I let callouses build up to the point where they may rip off during heavy lifting or if a bar slips out of my hands (neither of which happen very often).
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    Honestly, I still don't understand why your hands are taking such a beating. Many of us work at near-maximal weights and don't have the problems you mention... The only time I ever have such hand problems is if I let callouses build up to the point where they may rip off during heavy lifting or if a bar slips out of my hands (neither of which happen very often).

    I'm with Mr. Sensei here...maybe you could post a picture of the bar you deadlift with?

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    I recently bought harbinger gloves (without the wrist strap) because I just got over a fractured knuckle. I was cleared to lift normally by my doctor but I figured using gloves for a month or two couldn't hurt and it would make me more confident about going all out again. The gloves are great, they take away the feeling of the bar being smashed into your bones when lifting a lot (i dont have much meat on my hands). I'll probably go back to gloveless after a month or two, just looks so much tougher IMO

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