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    Something wrong with my deadlifts/back?

    I've noticed a lot of people (both here and at the gym) can deadlift alot more than they bench, and either close to or more than they can squat. I can't, for whatever reason and I can't figure out why. My bud who had never done a deadlift in his life did 225 his first time, I've been stuck at 185 for a while. My bench is 175, and my squat is 185. I have somewhat severe scoliosis (roughly 30 degrees). Could that be effecting my deadlifting? My form has been pretty spot on as far as I can tell (and others tell me). I just can't figure it out.

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    If you're relatively new to deadlifting, it'll take some time. Not everyone is gifted enough to put up big weight right from the start. Hell, I started by doing reps of 95 lbs, because with any other weight I wasn't comfortable my form would hold. Just keep working at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofer
    If you're relatively new to deadlifting, it'll take some time. Not everyone is gifted enough to put up big weight right from the start. Hell, I started by doing reps of 95 lbs, because with any other weight I wasn't comfortable my form would hold. Just keep working at it.
    I was worse. I started at 45 lbs (just the bar). I was a stick. This was just a couple of months ago. Now I am doing 265 lbs 10 times with ease. Practice the form and you can go a long ways with just your current size.

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    I'm sure the scoliosis has something to do with it. There may also be some difference depending on your size, and whether you have been actively involved in sports or other heavily physical activity before.
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    I stated doing deads at 95lbs also. Now I'm repping 355 without issues. Just takes time. If your new to it then just give it sometime and concentrate on form.
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    Started at 95 too, though I'm not quite repping 355, I'm improved quite a bit.

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    It takes time just be patient but don't be afraid to push yourself. See what you can do and just go heavy with proper form. Plus if your friend had never done a deadlift in his life I doubt he had good form. There are a lot of people that can lift that much weight but whether or not they're going to F up their back or not in the process is a diferent story. Good luck!

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    How long have you been lifting?

    How long have you been performing deadlifts?

    How long have you been stuck at 185?

    What is your full routine, including reps/sets?

    Do you have any videos of your deadlift?
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    I've been lifting for two years now. Been deadlifting the whole time.

    I've been stuck at 185 for probably about a year or so now. (185 is not my max, 225 is, but I can't rep any higher than 185)

    My split recently changed (about 3 weeks ago) to BGB. Before that I was on the one-part-per-day split (i.e. Mon-Chest, Tues-Back, etc).

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    I don't understand how you are stuck.

    How many reps are you doing? How many do you want to do? What happens if you put 190 on the bar?

    Are these touch and go reps or are you resetting between each one?
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    I do 5x5 with 185. I'd like to be able to do 5x5 with 225.

    They are pretty much touch and go, maybe like 3-5 seconds at the bottom if I am tired, with about 1-2 minutes between sets.

    Mainly I was just concerned because it seems like the general trend is that most people can deadlift a lot more than they bench. So I was wondering if something was wrong because I can't.
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    Maybe it's mental.. a lot of people have problems breaking through barriers once they think a barrier is there. i.e. lots of people can rep 310 but not get 315 because it is the magic 3 plates per side. It's a mental benchmark.

    If you can do 5x5 with 185 it's time to move the weight up.

    Why not do 10x3 with a heavier weight? This is an idea from one of Chad Waterburys routines and it worked VERY nicely for me. The week after you do 10x4 and after than you do 10x5 - all with the same weight. Before you know it you'll be able to get a single with 225, then it's only a matter of time until you get 5x5 of 225

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    Have you ever tried doing 5x5 with 190? What happens?

    1-2 minutes rest between heavy deadlifts isn't very much time. Are you there to increase your strength or your heart rate? Simply put - take a longer rest period!!

    As for the bench VS deadlift ... it could be a lot of things. Maybe you do more things for pushing than you do for posterior chain. Maybe your bench spotter had his hands on the bar, maybe your deadlift form is less than perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    Have you ever tried doing 5x5 with 190? What happens?

    1-2 minutes rest between heavy deadlifts isn't very much time. Are you there to increase your strength or your heart rate? Simply put - take a longer rest period!!

    As for the bench VS deadlift ... it could be a lot of things. Maybe you do more things for pushing than you do for posterior chain. Maybe your bench spotter had his hands on the bar, maybe your deadlift form is less than perfect.
    Or maybe he has been benching for longer? Most people start out with bench and curls and have decent benches before they start deadlifting and squatting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidelmo
    Or maybe he has been benching for longer? Most people start out with bench and curls and have decent benches before they start deadlifting and squatting.
    Yeah, usually that is the case, but he said he's been deadlifting from the start.
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    Next monday I will see if I can get 190 for 5x5.

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    Have you talked to a medical professional about your scoliosis limiting the strength of your back? What sort of dropoff you could expect, or any issues that might arise? We can't really neglect the fact that it is present, but progressive loading and maxing out should be able to get you somewhat further.

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    Wow, you've been stuck there for a whole year? I was thinking you'd been stuck for a month or so...

    I would definitely try Anthony's suggestion. Increasing by increments of 5 lbs helped me out with each of the big three lifts. I found that increasing by 10 was just too much of a difference (mainly with benching). If you can find a couple of 2.5 lb plates, then you should definitely try out 5x190 next time. It might not seem like you're making fast progress this way, but it really does add up over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofer
    It might not seem like you're making fast progress this way, but it really does add up over time.
    5 lbs / week = 260 lbs / year

    I would love to be DLing another 260 lbs a year from now.

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