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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    I've always done a 5x5 with a fixed 5-6 rep max weight.
    How is the method you're referring to different than a pyramid set?
    I meant start week 1 at a weight that is very light. Gradually increase that weight each week. You shouldn't be struggling in the first couple of weeks.
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    Like other said, scale it down some...another thing - you could do racks first one session (bench after) and do bench first the next time up (racks after).
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    Beast,

    Perhaps you just need to get your body accustomed to the realtively higher volume workload. If you haven't worked in higher set/rep schemes much before there is going to be an adjustment period, as with any new program. Once your work capacity gets to where it needs to be you'll be fine, but I'd just go lighter on the weights till your body reaches that point but trying to keep with the suggested set/rep scheme.
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    I was doing my own brand of workout, which I found to be very similiar to BGB - though ultimately inferior. Today as it happens I switched. It wasn't a huge change for me, but the paired up major compounds was painful. I did in fact feel pretty butt kicked at the end of it. A friend stopped by and asked how it was going. I said,

    "I'm doing a new workout and it's kicking my butt - I'm loosing."

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    lol, beast is such a nub
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    Beast, are you bulking or cutting? I tried BGB while I was cutting and I found it was too much work to do while cutting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu View Post
    lol, beast is such a nub

    Quote Originally Posted by LouPac View Post
    Beast, are you bulking or cutting? I tried BGB while I was cutting and I found it was too much work to do while cutting.
    Just maintaining, really. Maybe I should increase my cals a bit.

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    If you are increasing the volume in your workouts, then I would bump up the calories slightly, since you'll be burning a bit more during your workout.
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    Either do them concurrently as Built suggested, or drop one entirely. Attempting to do both heavy and intensely is a waste of time; one will certainly suffer, almost to the point where neural/systemic fatigue stops you from ever even approaching muscular fatigue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Attempting to do both heavy and intensely is a waste of time; one will certainly suffer, almost to the point where neural/systemic fatigue stops you from ever even approaching muscular fatigue.
    Yeah I'm finding that out... I was concerned because no one else has mentioned this problem on the workout.

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    Could you perhaps maybe split the workout during the day? For example, do the rack pull portion in the morning and bench at night? I like working out during my lunch break but i notice i run out of time on the monday portion of the workout. I'll just end up doing the rackpull, barbell row portion and save the bench for later that night. SHould i not be doing this?

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    The way I see it, if it's not so hard that you actuallycan't do it.
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    I don't think BGB should be too tough when cutting if you just do the 5x5 and 3x8 exercises. Atleast that's what Built said.

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    I do bench after deadlifts (and after the other rowing excercise), i've actually found that my strength has increased and i'd be benching more than usual and alot more easily, i love it.

    Also, after doing this routine i just feel so much stronger, and have improved in most excercises, plus, even getting dumbells of the rack is easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    Yeah I'm finding that out... I was concerned because no one else has mentioned this problem on the workout.
    I've been BGBing for a while now and I always saw it as a back-focused split. I realized early on that my chest wouldn't get as intense a workout as back, but then again the workout is titled Baby Got Back, not Baby Got Boobs. Rack pulls followed by bench are certainly a tough one. With the lats fatigued I imagine chest is still doing loads of work even if you're moving a lower weights, no?
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    Ray34 - yep, that's how I do it.

    Twilo - did you read the November Get Built? There's a discussion on adding more chest into the split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    Ray34 - yep, that's how I do it.

    Twilo - did you read the November Get Built? There's a discussion on adding more chest into the split.
    No, I hadn't. I've kinda been "away" recently, just checking in here sporadically. I will make a point of catching up on missed articles, though. I am currently revising my BGB again and I will check out the November Get Built... actually, right now! Thanks for the tip!

    edit: Just read it. Oh man... so much to think about. Block training is getting implemented in 5...4...3...2...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post
    I've been BGBing for a while now and I always saw it as a back-focused split. I realized early on that my chest wouldn't get as intense a workout as back, but then again the workout is titled Baby Got Back, not Baby Got Boobs.
    It's definitely back-focused.

    What I did was replace the 5x5 direct triceps exercise on Day 4 with 5x5 weighted dips to focus more on chest. After that I do a 3x8 tri exercise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    It's definitely back-focused.

    What I did was replace the 5x5 direct triceps exercise on Day 4 with 5x5 weighted dips to focus more on chest. After that I do a 3x8 tri exercise.
    That's actually probably the best solution. I can't do dips so I am taking Built up on her recommended writeup about Block Training. We'll see how that goes.

    One thing that I've credited BGB with from the start is that by placing back work first on upper body days my shoulders get such a great warm up that by the time I get to chest work I have no shoulder pain. Today I went and did the Block Training focusing on chest (chest ahead of back) and had shoulder pain by the third set. I warmed up on a treadmill for 10 mins prior to any lifting....
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