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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    Do you ever go back to where you started??

    Hi all,

    I started off as a skinny 19 year old probably 135lb at 5'7. I now weigh 180lb at 22 and am really happy with the way im look.

    Im pretty strong for my size and have done a lot of growing up in the last 3 years (was a late developer i think).

    Looking back at my pictures from then i suddenly am terrified of going back to looking like that.

    If i ever stopped training (injury or otherwise) how much mass/strength do you lose, all of it?

    Or would my new improved diet and knowledge of nutrition keep my mass reasonable as i eat a hell of a lot more than i used to and dont drink/party nearly as much??

    I have read countless threads on mass loss, but nobody seems to know what happens if you stop training for a lengthly period of time... anybody got any pics or mass loss etc from a very long lass off training??


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    Ofocurse your gonna lose everything, your body is gonna prefer to devour your muscle mass over the fat.

    Muscle take alot of energy and work to keep, your body doesnt like it.

    However, you could make alot of your losses very quickly thanks to good ol' muscle memory.
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

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    It depends on genetics, for some weird reason, some people lose it all, and some others seem to keep a great deal of their muscle mass for many years, without doing any training, my Dad was like that for example..

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    my brother use to be lift and had his arms up to 18inches.....he quit and after several months they went down to 13inches. The amazing thing is though is he kept alot of strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by clash View Post
    my brother use to be lift and had his arms up to 18inches.....he quit and after several months they went down to 13inches. The amazing thing is though is he kept alot of strength
    how many months is several. Cause that seems like a lot, 5 inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clash View Post
    my brother use to be lift and had his arms up to 18inches.....he quit and after several months they went down to 13inches. The amazing thing is though is he kept alot of strength
    Quote Originally Posted by EvanH View Post
    how many months is several. Cause that seems like a lot, 5 inches.
    Agreed, I'm going to have to call shenanigans on this. Either he measured wrong at the outset (they weren't 18 inches) or the end (they weren't 13 inches) or this span of "several months" includes years of bedrest. I sincerely doubt that someone could have that drastic of a change, particularly in that short of a time span.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexybeast777 View Post
    It depends on genetics, for some weird reason, some people lose it all, and some others seem to keep a great deal of their muscle mass for many years, without doing any training, my Dad was like that for example..
    I agree. I only train at random now (few times a month or not at all), and I am still the same weight and have pretty much similar body composition to when I was training intensely. However, I feel that I did lose some strength, but that's likely an issue of lack of training (nervous system) rather than mass loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexybeast777 View Post
    It depends on genetics, for some weird reason, some people lose it all, and some others seem to keep a great deal of their muscle mass for many years, without doing any training, my Dad was like that for example..
    I agree. I only train at random now (few times a month or not at all), and I am still the same weight and have pretty much similar body composition to when I was training intensely. However, I feel that I did lose some strength, but that's likely an issue of lack of training (nervous system) rather than mass loss.
    Granted, I am very active and maintain a decent diet.....creatine helps preserve mass as well according to studies.

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    It depends how much you eat. Why would your body "devour" your lean mass when you feed it properly? You would lose stength and some mass, but you would not go back to the same as you were before unless you ate significantly less.

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    Losing size would be a product of not eating enough. You're body composition would eventually change, but you could easily maintain the same size.

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    True. Size is more dependent on caloric intake and genetics. It's what that size is made up of that would change the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke_England View Post
    Hi all,

    I started off as a skinny 19 year old probably 135lb at 5'7. I now weigh 180lb at 22 and am really happy with the way im look.

    Im pretty strong for my size and have done a lot of growing up in the last 3 years (was a late developer i think).

    Looking back at my pictures from then i suddenly am terrified of going back to looking like that.

    If i ever stopped training (injury or otherwise) how much mass/strength do you lose, all of it?

    Or would my new improved diet and knowledge of nutrition keep my mass reasonable as i eat a hell of a lot more than i used to and dont drink/party nearly as much??

    I have read countless threads on mass loss, but nobody seems to know what happens if you stop training for a lengthly period of time... anybody got any pics or mass loss etc from a very long lass off training??


    cheers


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    you will most likely lose it - i stoped lifting for roughly a year an went down to 3lbs off the weight i was when i first started lifting

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    Quote Originally Posted by clash View Post
    my brother use to be lift and had his arms up to 18inches.....he quit and after several months they went down to 13inches. The amazing thing is though is he kept alot of strength
    I've been awol for 6-7 months at a time with no lifting at all and a poor diet and while I lost a good 15 lbs it wasn't that much and was easy to get back. Theres no waqy your brothers arms went from 18" to 13".

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    Quote Originally Posted by clash View Post
    my brother use to be lift and had his arms up to 18inches.....he quit and after several months they went down to 13inches. The amazing thing is though is he kept alot of strength
    I have seen something very similar, my ex-work out partner had to stop training because he injured his lower back badly because he refused to wear a belt while deadlifting, so he is constantly in pain now, and he is very depressed, his arms were as big as 19'', that's what he claims, I believe him, they looked huge, now, after maybe year and a half, he has lost a lot of weight, he hasn't lost any bodyfat at all, and his arms seem to be at the most 14.5'', but he claims they are 16''...I'm not gonna argue with a guy who is having a terrible identity crisis, who confessed to me he thinks he is losing his mind because of all of this...It's really sad....I beleive he has lost pretty much all his muscles, he is just a skinny guy, but for some weird reason, he can still curl a decent amount of weight...

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    What did that "Sexybeast" poster do to get banned?

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    I bet someone could lose 5 inches on their arms in six months if they had a lousy diet and did drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium_Jim View Post
    I bet someone could lose 5 inches on their arms in six months if they had a lousy diet and did drugs.
    They would'nt have to use drugs. All they would have to do is have a poor diet. By poor diet I mean eat very little calories. Muscle or fat or a combination of the two is what your "size" will consist of. When you don't get enough fuel for your body then it will use what it has in storage...your muscles and fat. Thus reducing your size. You don't think someone could lose 5 inchs off their are size? Stop eating and find out how easy it would be! lol

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    Ofocurse your gonna lose everything, your body is gonna prefer to devour your muscle mass over the fat.

    Muscle take alot of energy and work to keep, your body doesnt like it.

    However, you could make alot of your losses very quickly thanks to good ol' muscle memory.
    I took a full year off of working out after about a year and a half of training. I did not lose everything. I got fatter and my muscles got flatter.
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