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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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Thread: Noob help!

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    Noob help!

    Well I have a police test comming up, and I haven't lifted sense highschool, so I am way out of the loop!
    Right now I am lifting about 4 times a week, and running about twice. I am not overweight by anymeans, but dont have the arms I want, along with a little man boobage, and non tone looking stomach. So I need some help on my routine and diet. Right now I am taking Creatine monohydrate half hour before lifting, protein shake after. I weight 165 pounds at 5'9. I am only getting about 50 grams protein a day. Basically I want to turn this fat into muscle. My routine is as follows- This is with a bench and free weights I am usually doing 10-12 reps and 3 sets
    Monday
    Shoulders
    Biceps
    Curls with dumbells, and bar. Couple different variations
    (I want more bicep ideas)
    Tuesdays
    Tris
    Chest
    Bench and butterflies mainly, with pushups
    Wed Run
    Thursday-Same as monday
    Friday-same as monday
    Saturday-Run

    I don't really understand the concept of cutting and what to eat and what not to eat. I am a broke college student some expensive meals are out of the question. Usually I have cereal in the morning. Fruit through out the day. Some sort of meat for lunch and dinner.

    Also, is it worth it to take more that 5 grams of creatine?

    So to some up, I want to turn my fat into muscle, a 6 pack I dont really care about, I just want to be tone!

    Thanks in advance,
    David

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    Read up. Can't turn fat to muscle. 50g of protein a day is sad. That is one meal for must of us. Eating clean healthy food is probably cheaper then most junk food. Your routine sucks bad. Get on a good full body setup such as WBB1, BGB, Bill Star, or any quality routine based on heavy compound lifting.
    Nick V

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    I didn't litterly mean turning it into muscle...I am going to start doing WBB 1, but legs will be hard to do with what I have.
    Last edited by SvDave; 12-06-2006 at 03:33 PM.

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    Do hack squats instead of normal squats.
    This is a hack squat - http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...HackSquat.html

    Look up any exercises you dont understand on:
    http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvDave View Post
    Well I have a police test comming up, and I haven't lifted sense highschool, so I am way out of the loop!
    Right now I am lifting about 4 times a week, and running about twice. I am not overweight by anymeans, but dont have the arms I want, along with a little man boobage, and non tone looking stomach. So I need some help on my routine and diet. Right now I am taking Creatine monohydrate half hour before lifting, protein shake after. I weight 165 pounds at 5'9. I am only getting about 50 grams protein a day. Basically I want to turn this fat into muscle. My routine is as follows- This is with a bench and free weights I am usually doing 10-12 reps and 3 sets
    Monday
    Shoulders
    Biceps
    Curls with dumbells, and bar. Couple different variations
    (I want more bicep ideas)
    Tuesdays
    Tris
    Chest
    Bench and butterflies mainly, with pushups
    Wed Run
    Thursday-Same as monday
    Friday-same as monday
    Saturday-Run

    I don't really understand the concept of cutting and what to eat and what not to eat. I am a broke college student some expensive meals are out of the question. Usually I have cereal in the morning. Fruit through out the day. Some sort of meat for lunch and dinner.

    Also, is it worth it to take more that 5 grams of creatine?

    So to some up, I want to turn my fat into muscle, a 6 pack I dont really care about, I just want to be tone!

    Thanks in advance,
    David

    forget most of what you posted, you'll be wasting time and not making very good size or strength gains. too many iso exercises. try doing a full body workout everyother day. you'll develop fast. do 5 sets and 5 reps of

    bench
    squats
    military press
    dips
    pull ups
    deadlifts

    if you stick to this workout you'll grow nicely and get much stronger, on newb gains you'll be amazed if you give it your all how fast you can make noticeable gains.

    Ahnold says, " milk is for babies!"
    "deadlift if you know"- myself
    Boxing/ working out 5 days a week!
    6'1"- 230lbs-and bulking till i can't stand the mirror
    Former fatass- whent from 302lbs to 207 lbs rippling 05-06
    bench 315
    deadlift 455
    squat 405
    big 3 total = 1175 lbs of RAW IRON!!!MUAHAHAHAHAHA

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    I have no place to do pull ups, anything I can do to substitute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidelmo View Post
    Do hack squats instead of normal squats.
    This is a hack squat - http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...HackSquat.html

    Look up any exercises you dont understand on:
    http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html
    Why hack squats instead of regular squats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvDave View Post
    I have no place to do pull ups, anything I can do to substitute?
    look around your house, or for anything you can hang from.....

    Ahnold says, " milk is for babies!"
    "deadlift if you know"- myself
    Boxing/ working out 5 days a week!
    6'1"- 230lbs-and bulking till i can't stand the mirror
    Former fatass- whent from 302lbs to 207 lbs rippling 05-06
    bench 315
    deadlift 455
    squat 405
    big 3 total = 1175 lbs of RAW IRON!!!MUAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Won't Stop View Post
    Why hack squats instead of regular squats?
    I think he's saying he don't have the stuff to do regular squats

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    I have no place to do pull ups, anything I can do to substitute?
    If you dont have a place to do pull ups, your better off just applying when you can do them. Police physical testing is made up of: 1.5 mile run, agility testing, Push ups, Situps, and Pull ups. Each of these are totaled and translated into a cumulative score (dependent on the department)

    Height: 6'2
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    Yeah I have tested before, and have passed physical and what not before. The run is what I need to get back into shape for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreal View Post
    Read up. Can't turn fat to muscle. 50g of protein a day is sad. That is one meal for must of us. Eating clean healthy food is probably cheaper then most junk food. Your routine sucks bad. Get on a good full body setup such as WBB1, BGB, Bill Star, or any quality routine based on heavy compound lifting.
    A little harsh, but I agree with all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Won't Stop View Post
    Why hack squats instead of regular squats?
    I was wondering the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDS View Post
    I think he's saying he don't have the stuff to do regular squats
    I have a bench and a barbell, and I squat my legs into jelly. No fancy racks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnoldsclone View Post
    forget most of what you posted, you'll be wasting time and not making very good size or strength gains. too many iso exercises. try doing a full body workout everyother day. you'll develop fast. do 5 sets and 5 reps of

    bench
    squats
    military press
    dips
    pull ups
    deadlifts

    if you stick to this workout you'll grow nicely and get much stronger, on newb gains you'll be amazed if you give it your all how fast you can make noticeable gains.
    Can I add some flys into that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvDave View Post
    Can I add some flys into that?
    Flyes don't seem that popular around here. If you want to use dumbbells, do a dumbbell bench press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questor View Post
    I have a bench and a barbell, and I squat my legs into jelly. No fancy racks.
    lol...{laughs at the thought of a rack being fancy}

    I agree with your point though. If you have a barbell you can squat.
    Last edited by Levantar; 12-06-2006 at 10:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Won't Stop View Post
    If you have a barbell you can squat.
    If you have determination you can squat.

    I squatted with my wife and my dog on my back until I finally got a barbell.

    Barring some sort of incapacitating lower body injury, there's almost never a good excuse to leave squats out of a strength training routine.



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