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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Bill Starr 5x5 - Not sore?

    I decided to give Bill Starr's 5x5 workout a go. My first day doing the exercises at the gym and i'm not tired at all. I don't even think I broke a sweat. Is this ordinary for the first day?

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    Yes, that is normal.

    As a matter of fact, if you're practicing it the way it's written, you won't begin feeling tired until 5-6 weeks into the program.

    I think I'm 10 weeks in, and the program is pretty crucial. Give it some time.
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    The first four weeks are a period of adjustment. You work up towards your 5 rep maxes and then go from there.
    It is very normal to not feel as worked the first four weeks of Bill Star's 5x5.
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    Ya theres another thread about the same exact thing around here somewhere.
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    sorry bout that, ill search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p0ng View Post
    I decided to give Bill Starr's 5x5 workout a go. My first day doing the exercises at the gym and i'm not tired at all. I don't even think I broke a sweat. Is this ordinary for the first day?
    5x5 is a strength building program-meaning it's not enough volume for maximum hypertrophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG NASTY BOY View Post
    5x5 is a strength building program-meaning it's not enough volume for maximum hypertrophy.
    What does maximum hypertrophy have to do with being tired or not breaking a sweat?
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    Do you guys reccomend Bill Starr's 5x5 for cutting?

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    Could you email me the 5x5 workout or post the link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DokterVet View Post
    Do you guys reccomend Bill Starr's 5x5 for cutting?
    madcow's write up for the Bill Starr 5x5 states that if you plan to cut on this workout, you should start lighter and possibly take 6 weeks to build up to your 5RM instead of 4.

    From the site above:

    "If you are really making an effort to lose weight and using this program you might want to start significantly lighter or make smaller jumps week to week (i.e. take 6 weeks to reach your current 5RM rather than 4 weeks). Basically the same 200lbs 5 rep max squat at a bodyweight of 200 is a stronger lift at a lighter bodyweight. So if you are dropping bodyweight, you probably want think about starting lower because your 5RM estimates won't be accurate as your bodyweight changes and to get a reasonable shot at progression you don't want to be starting too high (that said, the less experienced the lifter they might have enough tailwind from their junior amount of experience to override a fair degree of headwind from bodyweight dropping)."
    I plan on starting the 5x5 in 3 weeks.
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    Thanks, Jam. I've read the whole thing thoroughly and understood that section. I was wondering if WBB members think it's a good routine compared to others to do while cutting.

    It seems to me like it would be good due to the low volume of heavy lifting.

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    I don't think there is a consensus here based on other threads that pose your question.

    Built, for example, who is ace in my opinion, has stated that she cuts on her 'Baby Got Back' routine. But you could just as well bulk.

    Most people use the 5x5 for strength gains primarily, because that's exactly what it was designed for. But I don't think anyone would argue that a cut would be horrible on it. Maybe not ideal, but only you will know your ideal. It may take some adjusting no matter what routine you do.

    Sorry for the vague answer, but I'm no expert.

    I'm cutting with WBB1 currently. No problems. Lower volume than 5x5. Most of the movements are 2x8.
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    Ok, thanks. I used WBB1 for most of my cut last summer and I found the length of the workouts, especially day 1, to be too much and I lost more strength than I wanted to. I think I'll try the 5x5 this time around.

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