i did read the thread a********* and i get all my information from this site because mostly everyone except for the noobs know what theyre talking about, im no expert so dont flame me almighty.
Relax, it wasn't a flame at all.
Face it: biceps are the muscle that classifies you as a muscle man.
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About the whole ATF and parallel squat thing, I would say if you havent done ATF then you should. I did them for a couple of months and they were great, then i switched to powerlifting and started doing a wider stance squat that my flexability would only let me go parallel. I have heard many places that full squats are better for your knees than parallel, but i know many many people who have been donig parallel for 10+ years and dont have knee problems, i guess it just varys.
Mr Sensei is bang on the money...again.
For me, doing full squats, even crouching down to talk to one of my nephews or nieces, is too hard on my knees. It literally feels like they are being caught in a vice. So I do a few inches past parallel. Come March of next year I will have been lifting for nearly 20 years...and I've never had knee problems in all that time.
To each his own.
Some of you guys mind find this stuff interesting:
Originally Posted by FortifiedIron,Jan 13 2007, 07:04 PMGenerally from all the stuff I've seen this far on the topic, the knee is at its most exposed position at approx. 90 degrees. When your standing or squatted at your best 'passive' ROM your knee joint is more stable.Originally Posted by Madrasi,Nov 15 2003, 09:59 AM
Wilk K et al. A comparison of tibiofemoral joint forces and electromyographic activity during open and closed kinetic chain exercises. Am J Sports Med; 24(4):518-527 - Actually shows that a leg extension is putting more shear pressure on the knee than a squat.
And of course Zatsiorsky, Siff, and Verkhoshansky all suggest squatting to full flexion.
Hope that helped some people.
Good post. I do agree about leg extensions. I haven't done them in a long time due to the stress it put on my knees.
I do tend to believe full squats are better, but that's only based on my personal experience. My left knee would always bother me when I would go to parallel. I'd have some pretty severe tendonitis for a few days afterwards as well. I switched to full, and the pain was non-existent.
No pain (For me at least), and a better workout. Seems like a no-brainer.
But I'd have to say that if what you're doing now gives you no discomfort in the knees, go ahead and keep doing it.
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I'll just throw this out there and see what everyone thinks.
When I sqyat ATF my knees crack on pretty much every rep, but when I squat parallel they don't crack at all. Any ideas?