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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    lol definatly gona need video of that 365x50 at 16 years old right? you would be on the national news!
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    Yeah but having just read the rules the standup thing seems like completely bs to me, im not gonna risk getting myself injured having to reset after each set.

    If you really think that could be on the news ima deadlift with a camera on me and keep tryin it tell someone sees haha

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    you can also pause for a minimum of 4-5 seconds between reps if you dont want to regrip, i think this is fair.
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    I just did 495 for 14. Does that count for this competition?
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    freak.
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

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    no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I just did 495 for 14. Does that count for this competition?
    You won.

    Here's your prize......
    *Pats Belial on back*

    Just wanted to add that I think this is the crappiest of the three competitions.

    Why 365?

    One is a bodyweight bench, one a 225 squat, and then a 365 dead? I'm just saying that's very close to a lot of people's max dead, while something like a 225 squat is feasible for everyone to try.

    The first two, nearly anyone can compete. The third eliminates most people.

    Not to mention this competition just wreaks of injury.

    But perhaps I'm just bitching cause I'm 175LBs. Actually... Weighed myself today and I'm down to 171. Haven't lost any strength though. heh.

    Oh well, good luck to those who compete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp View Post
    i think some people might get screwed because there grip will give out before there back and legs, i dont know its just my opinion ill do it either way
    I totally agree. I tried 20 lbs above my usual yesterday and after 8-9 reps my grip was giving way before my back and legs.
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    My grip will fail miserably.
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

    Dust out the vagina, and keep on lifting.

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    the weight is a little high imo

    i would think even if one is able, that weight for high reps may be inviting injury

    regardless, best of luck to all who attempt!
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    About the best way to convey this to the guys that are complaining about 365 being the chosen weight is for you imagine pulling 95lbs for a competition.
    The answer seems to be another weight competition.
    First time back pulling yesterday results are in my log. I need way more cardio training.yesh
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    this isnt a high rep lift, and by april 1st a lot of the guys who arent pulling 365 can try to do it at least once.

    and in the voting thread the people who wanted 365 made a better argument as to why it should be 365 and not 315.

    if enough people keep saying they want 315 then we can change it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinkies View Post
    Yeah but having just read the rules the standup thing seems like completely bs to me, im not gonna risk getting myself injured having to reset after each set.
    Jinkies, you would be mistaken.. the way to injure yourself is to do the reps without the break. Making it a true DL, good form, with no bounce or rebound. Watch a sample video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymyV6vP5NNU

    Real DLs and much safer..

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    Jinkies, if you could do this for 50 reps in 3 minutes, that would mean you'd probably be able to pull over 800 for a max.

    The record on my PL team for 405 is 23 reps. With only 40lbs less, I'm thinking it might be 30 reps. Still, the guy who did that DL's 700 for a max.
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    BTW, I think the reason we settled on 365, is because it was a good compromise between 315 (which the lighter guys wanted), and 405 (which the heavier, experienced DL'ers wanted). I think it works out just fine. The only way I could see it happening another way, to be fair, would be to have guys under, say 180lbs do 315 and guys over 180 do 405. I think we'd have a hard time figuring out a cutoff weight everyone could agree on, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uw-lifter96 View Post
    this isnt a high rep lift,

    if enough people keep saying they want 315 then we can change it...
    We'll see about that...

    why not just have two events this board has quite a range of strength maybe a 275-315 for the other competition. Just trying to include everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I just did 495 for 14. Does that count for this competition?
    gotta upset us you egotistic biotch

    kidding, nice work, beats my by 9 reps you arse.

    anyone do this yet?
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    Id love to, except I cant hold anything right now.
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

    Dust out the vagina, and keep on lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearwolf View Post
    Jinkies, you would be mistaken.. the way to injure yourself is to do the reps without the break. Making it a true DL, good form, with no bounce or rebound. Watch a sample video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymyV6vP5NNU

    Real DLs and much safer..
    that's interesting

    i always fully de-weight between reps, but i don't think i stand all the way back up like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    BTW, I think the reason we settled on 365, is because it was a good compromise between 315 (which the lighter guys wanted), and 405 (which the heavier, experienced DL'ers wanted). I think it works out just fine. The only way I could see it happening another way, to be fair, would be to have guys under, say 180lbs do 315 and guys over 180 do 405. I think we'd have a hard time figuring out a cutoff weight everyone could agree on, though.
    very few on this board can dead 405. only the more prominent posters can, and it would be a competition between less then 15 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uw-lifter96 View Post
    very few on this board can dead 405. only the more prominent posters can, and it would be a competition between less then 15 people.

    I disagree. I would HOPE more than 15 people on this board can deadlift more than 405.

    At my gym alone I've coached 6 or 7 people to a 405 deadlift fairly quickly (within 6 months for the longest). These individuals I'm thinking of range from 170-230 pounds in weight and 0-4 years of training experience. Hardly freaks.
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    i've pulled 405... it was ugly as hell, but it got locked out with no hitch... there was ramping involved though lol... I'm sure within the next few months i will be able to pull it cleanly.

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    Standing up between reps does sound stupid. I agree with no bouncing but that can be achieved simply by lettng the bar hit the ground and waiting 1 second before you pull again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I disagree. I would HOPE more than 15 people on this board can deadlift more than 405.

    At my gym alone I've coached 6 or 7 people to a 405 deadlift fairly quickly (within 6 months for the longest). These individuals I'm thinking of range from 170-230 pounds in weight and 0-4 years of training experience. Hardly freaks.
    :withstupi

    I think at least 30 or so people here could do 405. Almost everyone on my PL team has been able to do it within 6 months of training, including guys that weigh 135 lbs.
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    I'm sure I could do a 405 @ 170-75LBs, but it would be an astonishing one rep.
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