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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  • I stretch PRE-Workout

    5 11.36%
  • I stretch POST-Workout

    15 34.09%
  • I stretch PRE & POST-Workout

    9 20.45%
  • What is Streching and why would I do them?

    15 34.09%
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    Opinions on Stretching

    Tried doing a search on this but never really found any good info on it besides everyone has a different opinion on it. Just I figured why not get a poll going and see what you do.

    Why DO you or DON'T you stretch?

    Also anyone have any good stretching sites?
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    Different opinons? Streching is a neccesitity.

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    I've heard that stretching before warm-up is bad for your muscles. I've heard that stertching after a warm-up but before your workout will reduce strength. SO I think it's probably best to stretch after workouts but I still hardly ever do that. Just don't feel like stretching is a necessity for me right now.
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    danconia, i dont think its so much that its bad for your muscles, more that it releases muscle tension, and thats what you want to push big weights, you studly man.


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    Well I think that stretching before workouts increases the chances that you'll be injured because the muscles aren't warmed up.
    Stretching afterwards increases flexibility and I also heard somewhere that it may help increases strength gains. Not so sure about the last one.
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    Most injuries occur when someone lifts improperly. I dont think theres a study that shows stretching helps reduce injuries..If there is, it should be posted.
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    i rarely stretch. unless i have a very tight spot, i dont stretch.
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    I do more dynamic stretches before workout and more static stretches after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohizzle View Post
    I do more dynamic stretches before workout and more static stretches after.
    If you want to stretch, that's the correct way to do it.

    I don't stretch.
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    I do the same as Bohizzle since we work out together.

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    I remember hearing from someone that flexibility has more to do with the CNS than anything else. The mind's ability to relax a muscle is what gives it flexibility or something to that effect. I think it might make sense but anyone know if this position is correct?
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    I stretch pre-workout but only on squat and deadlift days to ensure I can nail the correct form without problems.

    For deads It normally goes along the lines of

    60-kg x 10 --> stretch --> 100-kg x 5 --> stretch --> 140-kg x (5x5)

    Squats is similar but 5x5 @ 120-kg

    Otherwise, I don't stretch

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    No stretching, but I do foam roller style stuff within a half hour of finishing up.

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    Stretching does not prevent injury according to some studies. I never stretch it does make me feel weaker when I lift. Not sure why.
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    yeah i stretched once before squatting and felt weaker. i think stretching afterwards is the way to go, supposed to speed up recovery also. And the more flexible the better in almost all cases. I have found that i cant touch my toes without it hurting alot but after i deadlift i can put my hands on the ground.
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    Stretching in a warm-up, however, has considerable research showing substantial decreases (5 - 30%) in muscular performance following stretching
    Avela J, Kyrolainen H, and Komi PV. Altered reflex sensitivity after repeated and prolonged passive muscle stretching. J Appl Physiol 1999;86:1283-1291

    Fowles JR, Sale DG, and MacDougall JD. Reduced strength after passive stretch of the human plantar flexors. J Appl Physiol 2000; 89:1179-1188.

    Kokkonen J, Nelson AG, and Cornwell A. Acute muscle stretching inhibits maximal strength performance. Res Q Exerc Sport 1998;69:411-415.

    The author is aware of no prospective studies of the association between stretching (short or long term) and injury risk in tennis.
    Knudson D, Noffal G, Bahamonde R, Bauer J, and Blackwell J. Stretching has no effect on tennis serve performance. J Strength Cond Res (in press).

    little evidence to show that stretching prior to physical activity decreases the risk of muscular injury
    Knudson D. Stretching during the warm-up: do we have enough evidence? J Phys Ed Rec Dance 1999;70(7):24-27, 51.

    Shrier I. Stretching before exercise does not reduce the risk of local muscle injury: a critical review of the clinical and basic science literature. Clin J Sports Med 1999; 9:221-227.

    Weldon SM, and Hill RH. The efficacy of stretching for prevention of exercise-related injury: a systematic review of the literature. Man Ther 2003; 8:141-150.
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    Just had a lecture on this subject today. It seems streching post workout while still warm is the best idea. BUT all it does increase ROM.

    I personally stretch post workout, that's if I stretch.
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    It increase flexability. If that's important to you...then do it.

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    i dont stretch because it reduces muscle and power

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    doing static stretching after a workout is the best way to do it.

    But i don't stretch. Probably should..lol
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    @ddegroff

    wow that could explain my somewhat low squat and deadlift, or maybe I'm just looking for excuses

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    You should never stretch cold. Do some warm up sets and stretch those muscles before moving into your heavy sets. Then you can stretch a little more and stretch afterward. Again, stretch when your muscles are warmed up. Stretching cold is not a good idea.
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    I warmup on a bike or treadmill before workout, then stretch well after workout. Stretching after your workout reduces soreness, and your muscles are good and loose. I've had good success. A baseball coach of mine always said "A longer muscle is a stronger muscle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddegroff View Post
    Avela J, Kyrolainen H, and Komi PV. Altered reflex sensitivity after repeated and prolonged passive muscle stretching. J Appl Physiol 1999;86:1283-1291

    Fowles JR, Sale DG, and MacDougall JD. Reduced strength after passive stretch of the human plantar flexors. J Appl Physiol 2000; 89:1179-1188.

    Kokkonen J, Nelson AG, and Cornwell A. Acute muscle stretching inhibits maximal strength performance. Res Q Exerc Sport 1998;69:411-415.



    Knudson D, Noffal G, Bahamonde R, Bauer J, and Blackwell J. Stretching has no effect on tennis serve performance. J Strength Cond Res (in press).



    Knudson D. Stretching during the warm-up: do we have enough evidence? J Phys Ed Rec Dance 1999;70(7):24-27, 51.

    Shrier I. Stretching before exercise does not reduce the risk of local muscle injury: a critical review of the clinical and basic science literature. Clin J Sports Med 1999; 9:221-227.

    Weldon SM, and Hill RH. The efficacy of stretching for prevention of exercise-related injury: a systematic review of the literature. Man Ther 2003; 8:141-150.
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    Just had a lecture on this subject today. It seems streching post workout while still warm is the best idea. BUT all it does increase ROM.

    I personally stretch post workout, that's if I stretch.
    Great stuff.

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    well I didn't stretch today for my Romanian deadlifts, did 3 warm-up sets then racked 130-Kg/286-lbs and it was far easier than I thought.

    Going to ramp up the weight to 140-kg next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by must_eat View Post
    i dont stretch because it reduces muscle and power
    no it doesnt. where did you hear that? Have you seen ronnie coleman do his spits before? yeah.
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