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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #151
    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Chub- you are angry for a skinny bastard.

    Thanks guys.


    Tomorrow my plan is to start with high box squats(A few inches above parallel/for my sumo pull), then I want to pull sumo in full gear for a few mdoerate single(no maxes), then do some goodmornings. We'll see if I stick to the plan.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

  2. #152
    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Deadlift day


    High Box squats(17"/Viking briefs)

    1@145x3
    1@235x3(briefs on)
    1@325x3
    1@375x3(belt)
    1@415x3
    1@465x3
    1@505x3(This will be my starting PR/had more in me)


    Deadlift(Sumo/viking briefs/DD suit)

    2@135x1
    2@225x1
    2@315x1(gear on/straps up)
    2@405x1(belt on)
    1@425x1
    1@445x1(cranked the straps tight for this)


    Goodmornings(Narrow/no belt/SSB)
    (All done down to a pin height just below my belly button)

    1@155x8
    1@165x8


    CT rows

    1@090x12
    1@140x10
    1@160x10

    Abs- 3 sets


    I liked this workout. I feel much better pulling after I've done some form of squatting first. I think the above parallel box squats will strengthen my mid-range on deadlift, which seems to suck. The 505 sets wasn't too hard, but I had a little trouble keeping the bar in postion, so more reps may have got ugly. I think I will alternate those each week with a 16" box for higher reps(like next week I'll try for a work sets of 8-10 reps off the 16" box, then the next week do a heavy triple off the 17").

    Went back to the denim suit to pull and I really liked it. I actually stuck with the plan and didn't go too heavy. I experimented with a few different setups, including a roll technique, but I seem to look best just going straight down, shoulders back and explode. I'll post a few vids of this later.

    I'm not sure if I'll keep the GM's in, I may switch it to a really low Narrow stance squat or something. I'll see how I feel next week.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

  3. #153
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    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Dude I hate you. Nah, really, nice pulling. Really quick off the floor. Do you feel like you're getting anything from the suit when you pull?

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

  5. #155
    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    Dude I hate you. Nah, really, nice pulling. Really quick off the floor. Do you feel like you're getting anything from the suit when you pull?
    Thanks man. I sure hope so. I was messing with my technique some more today. I know there are people out there getting 50-100 lbs out of their suits on deadlift. I'm trying like hell, lol. When my deadlift was the strongest I pulled 505 in a belt and 530 in briefs and a suit. That's not a great carryover, but I hope to change that.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    damn your a beast chris
    2000 or bust

  7. #157
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    sweet high boxes. I had never thought of doing those to help the deadlift. Deadlifts are looking strong, also. 600 here you come!
    Weight: 194.0 lbs.Height: 5' 11"
    Raw PR's 425/340/534
    Goals for '10:
    Put on size and git Strong(er)
    Raw Goals: 450 Squat, 365 Bench, 570 Deadlift

    "Weak points come from not doing the things you suck at doing." -Dave Tate

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    nice videos what did you mean by tight straps - i was expecting straps to hold the bar but definaly not
    Way down this road, in a gym far away, a young man was once heard to say, "I've repped high and I've repped low, No matter what I do my legs won't grow."

    He tried leg extensions, leg curls, and leg presses, too. Trying to cheat these sissy workouts he'd do. From the corner of the gym where the big men train, Through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

    Where the big iron rides high and threatens lives, Where the noise is made with big forty fives. A deep voice bellowed as he wrapped his knees, A very big man with legs like trees.

    Laughing as he snatched another plate from the stack, Chalking his hands and monstrous back, Said "Boy stop lying and don't say you've forgotten, Trouble with you is you ain't been SQUATTIN"

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    100lbs out of a suit would be huge! You seemed slower with the roll technique than your normal pull, but all of those flew up.
    PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
    Meet PRs: Bench Only 525

    Deadlifts bring people together. It's a fact. - Chris Rodgers

  10. #160
    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Thanks stump and Big.

    Quote Originally Posted by 8.8 View Post
    nice videos what did you mean by tight straps - i was expecting straps to hold the bar but definaly not
    No. My grip is pretty good(knock on wood), I only use straps if I'm doing very heavy cheat/power shrugs or heavy DB rows. The straps I meant were on the suit. They have velcro on them and you can make them as loose or tight as you want. The tigther they are, the more support....but it makes it hard to grab the bar in good position.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior View Post
    100lbs out of a suit would be huge! You seemed slower with the roll technique than your normal pull, but all of those flew up.
    Yea, the roll was something to try. I definetely felt faster on the other sets.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Damn Chris. You're getting more out of your DL suit than most people I've talked to. I have heard that some people get good things out of a Metal DL Suit, and also heard that some people get some good stuff out of a Metal SQ when pulling, but nothing like 100lbs haha.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    500 pound box squats are sweet as hell! The weight you move at your bodyweight is incredible, hell even not considering bodyweight your a damn strong guy! I've always tinkered with the notion of using equipment like a squat suit and bench shirt but even if I could afford them I have no one to teach me lol.

    Keep it up!

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by WBBIRL View Post
    500 pound box squats are sweet as hell! The weight you move at your bodyweight is incredible, hell even not considering bodyweight your a damn strong guy! I've always tinkered with the notion of using equipment like a squat suit and bench shirt but even if I could afford them I have no one to teach me lol.

    Keep it up!

    Thanks man. I have been blessed with some amazing training partners and some of the best at teaching/using the shirts/suits, etc. It makes a huge difference.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Plan for the week:

    Mon- declines, inc DB's(paused), illegal wides, SSB JM's, rear delts

    Tue- Speed box squats(straight bar and chains), sumo sldl, pull thrus, lats, abs

    Thu- Shirt work w/heavy band tension off boards, floor press w/chains, rear delts

    Sat- High box squats(16") work up to heavy set of 6-10 reps, rack pull conv below the knee, SSB squats(narrow, raw and deep), rows, abs


    That's the training plan. I also laid out a bit of a diet to follow, so hopefully I will stick to each. It's not a real strict diet, but moreso just to get in enough protein and calories to grow(since I'm still tiny).
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Yea, tiny. Haha you're still bigger than me I think.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    Yea, tiny. Haha you're still bigger than me I think.
    Not really, but I'm shorter, so I may appear a little thicker. We both are tiny tough, lol. My training partner Chris Taylor's forearms are bigger than my thighs, lol. He's shorter than I am and down to 275ish!
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Down to 275? Jesus Christ. Yes we are both small. How tall are you?

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    5'7"
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    A good 3" shorter. Fantastic.
    Last edited by Chubrock; 03-11-2007 at 09:01 PM.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    11-7= 4
    Last edited by Chris Rodgers; 03-11-2007 at 09:08 PM.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    You are correct, but assuming that you're slightly taller than 5'7 and I'm slightly shorter than 5'11, this would give up a "good" 3inches, meaning at least 3" difference. Give me some credit. I'm an Accounting/IS major. If nothing else, I'm good with numbers.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Bench assistance

    Decline press

    1@095x10
    1@135x8
    1@185x5
    1@225x2
    1@245x2
    3@225x5


    Incline DB press(all reps paused)

    1@55'sx6
    1@70'sx9


    Illegal wide grip bench press

    1@095x12
    1@125x12
    1@145x12(PR)


    Incline Tate presses- 3 sets

    Band pressdowns- 2 sets

    Band face pulls- 3 sets



    Felt good today. I ate like a fat bastard this weekend. My weight tonight was 160, so I'm back up close to where I was months ago. I bumped all the weights up from last week and felt good on all the movements. Someone was squatting with the SSB in the rack, so I just did other stuff for triceps.

    Tomorrow I am straying from the planned work a bit. Big Spero is gonna do some full gear free squats since he is doing the meet in a few weeks, so I figure it is a good chance for me to test out the new canvas. So we'll see how that goes.

    It was good to see Jim the Bus driver try out a shirt for the first time since competing at the '84 Hawaii Record breakers. He was throwing around 425 for a few reps like it was nothing at like 185-190. He'll be pushing over 500@181 in the near future.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rodgers View Post
    Yea, the roll was something to try. I definetely felt faster on the other sets.
    I've never been any good with the roll.

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    I find that the only thing the roll is good for is getting me to dive up under and get a decent arch before pulling. I still don't pull with a great arch. Probably should fix that.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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