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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #176
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    really nice bench session there Chris, eating like a fat hoe is where its at, you feel decline is beneficial? i know metal militia likes it.
    2000 or bust

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Werd up fatman!

    I like declines a lot...then again my bench sucks. I prefer to use them since the setup doesn't bother my back and I can use heavier weights than flat bench.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    pretty much why i do them, lol.
    2000 or bust

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    Assistance work looking good. What are tate presses again?
    PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
    Meet PRs: Bench Only 525

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    Basically elbows out dumbell extensions. Dumbells down to the chest and extend back up. Hadn't done them in ages and didn't really care for them.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    Funny, I was reading about the tate press in an interview with Dave himself. He said he didn't invent the exercise, people just called "tate presses" because he did them often (or something to that effect). He also went on to ask, "why would you name a press after me, when bench has never been my strongpoint?"... lol.
    Weight: 194.0 lbs.Height: 5' 11"
    Raw PR's 425/340/534
    Goals for '10:
    Put on size and git Strong(er)
    Raw Goals: 450 Squat, 365 Bench, 570 Deadlift

    "Weak points come from not doing the things you suck at doing." -Dave Tate

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    I didnt realize you were just a little guy...moving some big weights!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stepto180 View Post
    I didnt realize you were just a little guy...moving some big weights!!!

    Ouch, not sure if I should take that as a compliment or not, lol.

    I realize in my videos I look massive, so it's hard to believe that I only weigh about 160.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    Very impressive lifts. I have been reading up on your journal(s), very strong stuff bro.

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    i was just watched your vids earlier I just figured you were like 5 10 200ish vids can be very deciving I guesse...plus I weight 175 so maybe im just big??
    and it was meant to be a compliment but it might not have came of as one

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    Strength is lookin solid man strong declines. I'm liking the weekly settup, once the new equipment gets here I need to lock down on one as well.

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    Mike G and Kevin- thanks a lot guys.

    Step- no, I'm just tiny, lol. I take it as a compliment, but it reminds me I need to eat more.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    3/13
    Heavy squat

    Squat(Ace briefs)

    1@145x5
    1@235x3
    1@325x1

    Add belt

    1@415x1

    Add new canvas

    1@505x1(straps tight/like a mile high)
    1@505x1(straps loose/little better)
    1@555x1(straps down/better)
    1@575x2(straps down...probably a straps down and no wraps PR..strong and ~ parallel)


    SLSDL(RAW/no belt)

    1@135x5
    1@225x5
    1@275x5
    1@285x5
    1@300x5
    1@315x5...followed immediately by 5 reps of normal sldl...very tough


    Abs- 3 sets


    It took waaaaay too long to get this done, but I was happy to get a decent squat in and some good pulling. The canvas is bigger than my old one, but since it is new it is much stiffer and binds up much more. I will be altering the straps since they are wider than my shoulders, lol. On my old canvas I cut them thinner so I could actually feel the bar on my back. I'll either do this again, or cut them off and put poly straps on it. We shall see. I think with straps up and knee wraps I am going to squat something sick in this thing.


    I am once again gonna tweak my sq/dl routine. My shoulder wa skilling me today the whole time and I know squatting heavy with the straight bar 3 days apart didn't help. Here's an idea I have:

    Tuesday- Week A-Gear squat(briefs or full), followed by raw ATF squats(st bar or SSB)
    Week B- High box squats(briefs or RAW), followed by heavy pull(many variations)

    Sat- SSB speed box squats, SLDL

    Saturday I will make sure to hammer the assistance work, since it won't take as long to get the first stuff done. Tuesday I will do whatever I have energy for at the end. I like it...gonna start that this Saturday. I change my mind almost everyday, I love it. :alcoholic
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    awesome workout man and new plan looks ace.

    whats your raw squat? im curious considering ill probley start using gear in the next 2 years.
    2000 or bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp View Post
    awesome workout man and new plan looks ace.

    whats your raw squat? im curious considering ill probley start using gear in the next 2 years.

    Errrrmmm, low.


    I really don't squat raw very often or consistently. My form raw and in gear is like night and day. I have a very strong top end and no quads(hence the wide stance). I think when I did squat raw the best sets were like 225x23 or so in a belt and mid 300's for like sets of 5 with belt/wraps. I get a lot from squat gear....mostly because of my strengths and my training.


    And yes, come to the darkside. The Gear-whoreness is strong in this one yes.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    haha ill join the darkside when im at around 600 raw. im really close to a 1400 RAW total so bear with me, i want to total 2000 before i turn 21, call me crazy.
    2000 or bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp View Post
    haha ill join the darkside when im at around 600 raw. im really close to a 1400 RAW total so bear with me, i want to total 2000 before i turn 21, call me crazy.
    Not crazy. You are a moose and I see no reason why you won't total that and more if you stick with it.


    Vids from tonight:


    555x1 squat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmpZvI2IXUU

    575x2 squat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVI3xMh7LiE

    275x5 SLSDL(closeup, lol) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb7q09a095M
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    Awesome lifts CR...

    Those Sumo SLDLs look interesting.. might try those, but not sure I have the flexibility..

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    Dude some awesome squatting. The 575x2 was a joke although a bit high. I know you pull sumo so I can see doing SLDLs sumo would have a benefit. Do you think there would be much carryover for a conventional puller?
    PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
    Meet PRs: Bench Only 525

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    Strong as hell man. You ever gonna be competing down my way?

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearwolf View Post
    Awesome lifts CR...

    Those Sumo SLDLs look interesting.. might try those, but not sure I have the flexibility..
    They are tough. The hardest part is trying to squeeze the weight off the floor on the first rep. I'm so used to having speed off the floor on my normal pulls. These definetely hit the hammies and erectors hard.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior View Post
    Dude some awesome squatting. The 575x2 was a joke although a bit high. I know you pull sumo so I can see doing SLDLs sumo would have a benefit. Do you think there would be much carryover for a conventional puller?

    Thanks Sid. When I don't have knee wraps on for the heavy stuff, I typically don't break parallel. With a knee wrap on I know I can dip that down and break and get a good pop. The SLSDL is excellent. I think it is a great assistance movement no matter how you pull. I also believe that whether you are a sumo or conventional puller you should train both styles regularly.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    Strong as hell man. You ever gonna be competing down my way?
    Thanks skinny.

    Where the hell is down your way?
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    Damn nice squatting. You sure do get a lot out of that suit! What suit are you using, by the way?
    5'9" 195 lbs
    DL 600x1
    SQ 490x1 (raw)
    BP 430x1 (shirted), 320x1 (raw)
    SN 209x1 C+J 250x1


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    That's the Inzer canvas(Leviathon).

    And yes, I do.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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