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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #201
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    Thought I had it under my name. I'm down in NC.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    damn your strong chris, how much does that moose behind you squat lol
    2000 or bust

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    Chub- not sure. Nothing in the plans, but you never know.

    Stump- His meet PR is like 800 or a bit higher. He hit 755 in that workout in briefs only. I'd say he'll be good for 850-900 the next time he competes.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rodgers View Post
    That's the Inzer canvas(Leviathon).

    And yes, I do.
    I was going to ask did you spend much time with polys before going to canvas?
    PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
    Meet PRs: Bench Only 525

    Deadlifts bring people together. It's a fact. - Chris Rodgers

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    Dude, Chris was born in canvas. I thought everybody knew this.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    Dude, Chris was born in canvas. I thought everybody knew this.
    Haha...you sound like the RAW whore who trains with us.


    Sid- first suit was a sinlgle-ply champion. From there moved up to a hardcore. After that got the first style Metal Pro briefs and wore them under the hardcore. Then I got my first canvas(Phillips). Since then I never looked back. My squat style is all about canvas. My best pre-canvas squat was 425. First dy I tried canvas I hit 440. Next time hit 455 and it just kept going up for a while.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rodgers View Post
    Haha...you sound like the RAW whore who trains with us.


    Sid- first suit was a sinlgle-ply champion. From there moved up to a hardcore. After that got the first style Metal Pro briefs and wore them under the hardcore. Then I got my first canvas(Phillips). Since then I never looked back. My squat style is all about canvas. My best pre-canvas squat was 425. First dy I tried canvas I hit 440. Next time hit 455 and it just kept going up for a while.
    Cool bro, working up is what I have in mind too. Going to stick with the single ply poly for awhile, then go from there.
    PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
    Meet PRs: Bench Only 525

    Deadlifts bring people together. It's a fact. - Chris Rodgers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rodgers View Post
    Haha...you sound like the RAW whore who trains with us.


    Sid- first suit was a sinlgle-ply champion. From there moved up to a hardcore. After that got the first style Metal Pro briefs and wore them under the hardcore. Then I got my first canvas(Phillips). Since then I never looked back. My squat style is all about canvas. My best pre-canvas squat was 425. First dy I tried canvas I hit 440. Next time hit 455 and it just kept going up for a while.
    Wow... thats crazy. I might have to trade my hardcore in someday. Nice work on the no wraps PR
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    3/15
    Shirt bench

    Bench press(comp grip)

    warmed up to 185x1 then put on my old DD

    2@225x1
    1@275x1
    1@305x1
    1@325xalmost dropped on my face

    Added 2-board

    1@325x4(missed 5th at lockout)


    I shut it down after that. Felt like crap the past two days and figured any more work would just hinder recovery. I wore my old DD and it felt much tighter than the Inzer. I jacked it down too much on the first try at 325 and shot it back over my face. I decided since my shoulder and pec were bothering me to just take one set off the 2-board to get some kinda work in. That felt pretty good to rep that weight. It's been a while.


    I'll see how I feel on Saturday. That workout could range anywhere from just hanging out spotting or a full-blown workout. Til then I'll just eat and sleep and repeat...with some work in there too.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    nice bench. I bet that would have felt nice dropping 325 on your face. SFW!!!
    w:225lbs. h:5'10.
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    Nice benching, Chris. Are you following something similar to Metal Militia for your benching routine? Do you feel working with the shirt puts less stress on your shoulder/pec (ie. prevents injury)?

    Also... I've seen this for quite some time... what is SFW!!!?
    Weight: 194.0 lbs.Height: 5' 11"
    Raw PR's 425/340/534
    Goals for '10:
    Put on size and git Strong(er)
    Raw Goals: 450 Squat, 365 Bench, 570 Deadlift

    "Weak points come from not doing the things you suck at doing." -Dave Tate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big o Boy View Post
    Nice benching, Chris. Are you following something similar to Metal Militia for your benching routine? Do you feel working with the shirt puts less stress on your shoulder/pec (ie. prevents injury)?

    Also... I've seen this for quite some time... what is SFW!!!?
    SLAM FCUKING WEIGHT!!!

    Bummer about the shirt work chris. Stopping early sounded like a good call.
    PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
    Meet PRs: Bench Only 525

    Deadlifts bring people together. It's a fact. - Chris Rodgers

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    that stinks man, good call on stopping early and not risking your face
    2000 or bust

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    Big- I have no idea what kind of routine I'm doing, lol. I just basically do raw full range work one day and then a few days later do top end/shirt stuff.

    But yes, the shirt definitely makes a big difference. My pec/shoulder really didn't feel good, but the shirt allowed me to still get some good work in without any discomfort.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Wow... very nice bench day CR. 2bd pressing especially
    - rEDfURY
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    So you rate all the Metal gear that's out at the moment?
    "A + B + C = Success if, A = Hard Work, B = Hard Play, C = Keeping your mouth shut" -Albert
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    Thanks Fury.

    Franco- what's up man? Long time. I don't really understand your question. Are you asking how I like the gear? If I tried the new stuff?
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Well the gear in general.

    What's the general consensus that you and your group have on the Metal products?
    Last edited by Franco; 03-19-2007 at 03:55 PM.
    "A + B + C = Success if, A = Hard Work, B = Hard Play, C = Keeping your mouth shut" -Albert
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    -- Adam Fahy


    "Fran is a double-hard bastard"- Clint Brewer 31/12/02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Well the gear in general.

    What's the general consensus that you and your group have on the Metal products?

    I think the gear is top notch. It is expensive, but very strong stuff. I have had very good success with their briefs(Pro's, Vikings and the Ace). I pulle my best ever conventional in a single=ply Metal deadlifter. When I used to bench in poly, I used Metal and liked it.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    3/19
    Heavy bench

    Decline press

    1@095x12
    1@135x8
    1@185x5
    1@225x3
    1@245x3
    1@265x2(PR)
    1@275xmiss(made the rep, but had fingertip assist at sticking point)


    Floor press

    1@045+2 CHx5
    1@045+4 CHx5
    1@045+6 CHx5

    Add mini band around back

    1@045+6 CHx5
    1@095+6 CHxmiss(few inches from lockout)


    Shirt Bench(DD)

    1@225x3
    1@275x5(strong/no touches...some fairly close)


    CSR(I suck at these...just adding them back in)

    1@045x8
    1@090x8
    1@115x8
    1@115x10


    Felt good today. Taking Saturday off helped a lot. I decided to switch Monday to my heavy bench day...because I change my mind by the minute. It worked out well today, I'll see how squats feel tomorrow. I tried something different on the floor presses. I just kept adding resistance without increasing the bar weight,
    unfortunately we only have 6 sets of chains(and a few are smaller...like 30 lbs a set) so I have no idea what I was locking out. So after that I added a mini band around my back. This made it much harder. I decided to add a quarter at that point, but it stalled towards lockout and I couldn't fight through all the chains/band, so I missed. I liked these though. I want more chains. I put the shirt on after that a did some reps. This shirt is much tighter than the Ultimate. Even fatigued I did 275x5, where as I did like 255x6 or so in the Ultimate. Next week I hope to hit up some band tension for bench work. We'll see.


    Tomorrow I will squat. Most likely with bands. Maybe off a box, maybe not.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Sweet bench workout man. Great idea with the mini around the back on the floor presses. I was wondering how I could add tension to a floor press without using chains. Awesome.

    What are CSRs? Sorry for all of the questions Chris, I feel like a sponge right now.
    Weight: 194.0 lbs.Height: 5' 11"
    Raw PR's 425/340/534
    Goals for '10:
    Put on size and git Strong(er)
    Raw Goals: 450 Squat, 365 Bench, 570 Deadlift

    "Weak points come from not doing the things you suck at doing." -Dave Tate

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    CSR=Chest supported row. I use the wide/elbows out grip for upper back.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    You seem to know that shirt pretty well... how can you stay tight while doing reps? Seems to be a problem with me, once the bar goes up it doesnt come back down right.
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    Philippians 4:13

    "To give anything less that your best is to sacrifice the gift" - Pre

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    Quote Originally Posted by redFury View Post
    You seem to know that shirt pretty well... how can you stay tight while doing reps? Seems to be a problem with me, once the bar goes up it doesnt come back down right.
    I find it tough too. You have to practice doing reps. It's the only way to get better at it. Usually, during the set I have to make sure to squeeze my shoulders back and basically reset myself on the bench before bringing the bar back down. This helps me.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Awesome benching. Chest supported rows are tough but well worth it.
    PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
    Meet PRs: Bench Only 525

    Deadlifts bring people together. It's a fact. - Chris Rodgers

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