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    Just keep taking care of business. You can only control what you can control. (if that makes sense)

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    Sure does, mate.

    Jesus H. Christ Jones, today's workout was a beast and a half.

    Wide Grip Pullups
    Add Straps (lulz)
    BWx5
    BWx5
    BWx5
    BWx4
    BWx4
    BWx4
    BWx4
    BWx5
    BWx4
    Total : 40

    Standing EZ Bar Curls
    EZ+50x10
    EZ+50x10
    EZ+50x10

    BB Shrugs
    Add Straps (lulz)
    275x10
    275x10
    275x10 ... bumped from 225 last few weeks.

    BB Grip Holds
    225 Double-Over 15 sec (fail)
    225 Double-Under 9 sec (fail)
    225 Right Over-Under 22 sec (fail)
    225 Left Over-Under 20 sec (fail)

    KrOc RoWs
    R : 75x30
    L : 75x30 ... OMG.

    Seated Cable Rows
    100x10
    100x10
    100x10

    Cable Ab Pulldowns
    150x12
    150x12
    150x12

    Stretched and done!!

    This was fairly insane today. The pullups were done basically throughout first 35-40 of the 60ish minutes of the workout. I spaced them out in order to be able to get more volume, and it worked. As you can see I was even able to rep out a set of 5 close to the last set. I was aiming for 8 sets of 5, but this was good enough; and felt awesome. Don't ask me why I did grip work right after shrugs, but I did and it was nasty stuff. My hands felt like the skin was literally ripping off... Kroc rows were insane, and i'm sure it's a PR. 25 was my goal for those and I managed 30, barely; and definitely wanted to puke afterwards. Will be surely bumping the weight up on those next week. Cable rowing and ab pulldowns felt strong and were awesome to end the workout. Definitely happy with todays work. Thanks for tuning in.
    Last edited by jed; 04-14-2010 at 06:22 PM.
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    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
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    You should be happy with that. Monster session to say the least. Lots of things to applaud, but those Kroc rows with that weight, those reps, and all the exercises beforehand....you get the idea.

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    There ya go, buddy!!! I like what I'm seeing. Great volume on the chins, even if they were with straps, lol. That type of volume will really help with your chin strength and lat size. Dude, I can double overhand about the same as you for the same time and yet mix grip 385 in my hands no problem. Great Kroc rows, too! No warm-up sets? That's a great effort though and you should feel pukey!
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    Nice back work bud, and I am glad to see you working some grip work into the mix as well...only way it'll improve. Good job bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jed View Post
    Sure does, mate.

    Jesus H. Christ Jones, today's workout was a beast and a half.
    Haha, no s***. All that grip work is awesome!!! I definately like the 'uniqueness' of your sessions. The 762 sets of pullups to start were no joke either! Good stuff man.

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    Nice job with that session Jed.

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    Nice job bro! I'm glad you're doing enough pullups for both of us. Hardcore work with the Kroc rows, and just a freaking smorgasbord (sp?) of a workout.
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    John o - Thanks for the kind words man. The krocs were fun indeed

    Keef - Thanks d00dz. If I had a chin bar with grip, it would be different. But this bar is a slippery as your mum's... well, you know. (Hopefully your mom jokes are funny in Canadia) The kroc rows were solid, no warmups cause my back was already warm from pullups. Answer my PM.

    Bor - Thanks duder. I know its the only way it'll get better, since i'll not be deadlifting for a long time it seems.

    Bri - Thanks, man Sessions would start becoming 5-3-1 soon, but the back says otherwise.

    Coke - Thanks as always manly.

    AK - Hehe, thanks... I think you spelled that at least semi-close!

    Well I haven't had a crappy workout for a while, so here it goes.

    Squats
    45 x warmup
    High Bar
    135x10
    Low Bar
    135x10
    Medium Bar
    135x10

    Quadrapedal Glute Ham
    10 each leg

    Cable Stabilizer Pulls
    10 each

    BW 200.00 lbs, scantily-clad.

    Done. I am steadily losing hope that I am ever going to recover from this back issue. It gave me TONS of pain today after the last set of squats. It has officially stayed the same level of pain ever since I started wasting my time on all of this bullsh**. I am honestly torn at the moment, and have no idea what to do. I can try to lift heavy like I used to, and suck up the pain... or try to heal this once and for all. The question is how the f*** am I going to heal it. Probably will be getting an MRI within the next week or so. This has just gone too far without an answer.
    Last edited by jed; 04-16-2010 at 05:09 PM.
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    PR's - Squat 350 | Bench 290 | Deadlift 400.4 | BW 203
    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
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    Hmmmm....That sucks broseph. I really don't know what to say. At my age though, looking back, if I were you, I think I would just give up any back stress for a long while. And yes, by that I mean squats and deadlifts. Can't believe I'm saying it, but that's my honest opinion. Only reason I say it is you're SO young, and SO strong already. I think a little time off would be a small price to pay. Then again, who knows how long it will take to heal, if at all... Tough call bro.
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    I appreicate your thoughts and response, AK. I encourage everyone to give their opinions and thoughts. If I knew what I was doing I wouldn't have said I was torn and unsure of what to do. I can agree with no squatting and deadlifting, but also with how long? I went 3 straight weeks with zero lifting, not even upper work. Then one week with just upper. Two with just upper and some stablizing... And I still felt some pain. Now the one day I come back and add even the smallest amount of weight on my back, it's ready to blow. F***ing f***.
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    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
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    Dude you have no idea how long I ****ed around with low back pain. It lasted for years, serious. The only thing that'll work is figuring out exactly what's going on, and fixing it/letting it heal. Man up and forget about heavy deads/squats until this heals first of all. Get a heat pad and heat + foam roll any sore areas on your back daily. Do lots of stretching. It sucks, but I literally stopped dead lifting completely for a few months until my lower back felt normal again. Your strength will come back, trust me, muscle memory is very real.

    I'm also curious how much you work your hams? I really believe now that weak hamstrings was part of my problem, causing my lower back to overcompensate during certain lifts. I used to neglect my hamstrings big time, but now that I've been hammering them consistently for the past few months I've noticed a HUGE difference in how my back feels after heavy deads. I used to get almost crippling lower back pumps after every pulling sessions and now I barely feel anything in my back.
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    Valuable information, Invain. I stretch daily before I go to bed (nightly I should say). 60-90 seconds on each side of my flexors, extensors, abductors, and adductors. Also 90-120 seconds on hamstrings. I do not, however, work hammies very often. I've found the best way to hit them is leg curls or glute ham raise. I don't have access to a leg curl machine, and glute ham raise usually ends up hurting my back. GM's work too but anything over 65 lbs recently has also caused pain. I am interested in trying anything you have to say; what do you suggest to hit hammies with little or without low back pain? Please note that it's not a muscular pain feeling I am experiencing, it feels like it's nerve / vertebra problems. Which obviously can be caused by what you said, but just letting you know.
    Last edited by jed; 04-16-2010 at 06:16 PM.
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    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
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    I empathize with your situation Jed, but it's time to figure out what's going on. With so many questions you can't reasonably expect to map out an intelligent solution. Furthermore you could be worsening the situation. Summon up all the intestinal fortitude you have shown in the past and be ready to focus that on making better whatever ails you.

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    I can't imagine how powerless you must feel, no doubt you are anxious to finally get this diagnosed and remedied. We wish you the best Jordan, sorry you have this ordeal hanging overhead.

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    Dude, I don't even know what to say because in no way I can relate. All I suggest and recommend is get it looked at by a specialist as soon as you can. I can't imagine how frustrated I would be if I was in your situation. I feel for you man, I really do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jed View Post
    The question is how the f*** am I going to heal it.
    It seems like I almost always get anxious to get back to lifting before my body is ready to let me, and it always tells me its too early after its too late and I've re-injured/prolonged the injury yet again. In my opinion you should probably lay off lifting for a bit and focus on something else in life to pass the time by and let your body heal. Trying to lift heavy wont do it and it'll only make it worse IMO...and you're too young to be ****ed up for the rest of your life due to being impatient. Its easy to talk yourself into believing you're well enough to begin hitting the weights hard again but I think you would be doing yourself a disservice by doing so.

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    Trying to suck up back pain is out of the question. Get it looked at properly.

    Hope you get it sorted soon mate. Nightmare.
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    john o - Thanks for the well put post, dude. That was a great set of words put together there.

    Coke - Thanks for the words, big man. It will be over someday.

    Keith - I appreciate your words mate. I will be doing something this week.

    Bor - I like the experience sharing, man... This has helped me realize i'm silly for even thinkin' about it.

    Flynn - Appreciate the straight up answer, mate.

    Well fellas... I didn't ask y'all for no reason, and I appreciate everyones responses. I'm definitely not going to be hitting any heavy squat or deadlift or ANY weight that hits my lower back whatsoever. For now, I am thinking about jimmying up a program that has a lot of isolation movements in it, so I can still lift and maintain strength but not hit my lower back at all. I just have such a hard time shutting it out completely... lifting is really the only thing i've ever been good at. If you think that isolation and not hitting the lower back at all is a bad idea, then please let me know. But I don't see that it would be a problem. I am going to set an appointment with my doc (not chiro) this week and have him see if he has any more ideas on what is wrong, and we may have a cortisone injection to see if that would releive pain. That way in knowing the cortisone helped or didn't, we would be able to narrow down the problem. Trying to stay away from an MRI because it's a huge cost to my family that I would like to avoid if at all possible. Anyways fellas, thanks a ton for your support. I would probably either be dead or 35% BF by now without you guys.
    Last edited by jed; 04-18-2010 at 07:04 PM.
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    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
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    That's a very mature decision Jed. If only all the other hooligans your age were that smart... Anyway, I don't see any reason why you couldn't do isolation lifts, I was actually going to suggest that for your legs. Good luck bro.
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    Isolation would probably be a good idea in the mean time. Don't do anything that involves the lower back at all. Lunges, leg extensions and leg curls are about the only thing you can do for your lower body. I wish you the best of luck on finding a solution for this.
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    Thanks for the words both of ya's. Todays workout was solid as hell, I think this isolation stuff might work well enough.

    Chest / Delts / Tri's

    Decline DB Press
    65x10
    65x10
    65x10

    HB Raise
    25x10
    25x10
    25x10

    Dips
    BWx12
    BWx12
    BWx12

    Kettlebell Bent Laterals
    15x12
    15x12
    15x12

    Cable Tricep Pushdown
    150x10
    150x10 +.5 rep
    150x10 + 2.5 rep

    Single Leg Calf Raise (each)
    BWx20
    BWx20
    BWx20
    BWx20
    BWx20... these were done in between sets of other exercises.

    BW : 200.2

    Stretched, done!

    This was pretty damn good. I actually felt the decline presses in my chest FINALLY, something I can actually feel in my chest. HB raises I almost want to upgrade to 30's... the 25's are starting to feel lighter Dips were swell... I wanted to add some weight but am worried it might've taxed my back. Maybe next week. KB Laterals were f***ing rape, these were awesome. Will be doing these more often... Cable pushdowns got me by surprise, but damn those were tough. Glad to see that I am not getting weaker though.

    Today I was happy with my vascularity and separation I was seeing in my delts. The KB raises brought out seperation i've never seen before, and I can tell this watching my fat stuff is actually starting to pay off. They seem to be getting slighty larger too. I *thought* I was seeing more shape to my arms also, but that could just be a placebo / illusion. Time will tell. Also was looking at my calves in a mirror the other day and saw more seperationj than usual; could've just been the light, i'm not sure. I am happy so far as I have been cutting calories and fat but maintaining bodyweight and increasing strength, so I am doing it somewhat correct.
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    No joke, decline presses are blatant and direct for the chest.

    Glad to hear you are becoming more muscular and defined.

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    Nice workout Jed!

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    And no back pain?? Awesome!!
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