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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    A "man's" breakfast??

    Advice/comments please from the men in particular. The biggest problem we have in our household is knowing how much my husband should eat (portions). I've got my needs under control (calories/frequency) but I find it difficult to help my hubby. I'm the one who does all the reading, researching etc. I can on nutrition. He will willingly listen, absorb and eat whatever is put in front of him, but has no interest in researching his own. I know I have to keep in mind he needs way more food than I do (he's 90-95lbs heavier @ 6'1" roughly 200-205) but I often think his portions are crazy. Example, this morning he ate for breakfast: omelette consisting of 1 extra large whole egg and 4 additional whites with shredded cheese and mushrooms, 2 pieces of texas toast w/natty PB and a bit of sugar free jam, a fat free yogurt (50cals) and a large banana. Does that seem excessive? The problem with him eating such large meals as well is that he's often not hungry for hours and hours afterwards. Do you think I am underestimating his needs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetnLO View Post
    Do you think I am underestimating his needs?
    Is he gaining or losing weight? Is his composition changing? If no, then he's eating what he needs to be. If he's getting fatter, he needs to back off. Pretty simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    Is he gaining or losing weight? Is his composition changing? If no, then he's eating what he needs to be. If he's getting fatter, he needs to back off. Pretty simple.
    He has maintained his weight for about 10 mos now, but he complains about belly fat (really the only place he is holding visible fat). His weight fluctuates wildly over the course of the day or between days - as much as 5-10lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetnLO View Post
    His weight fluctuates wildly over the course of the day or between days - as much as 5-10lbs.
    That's not really a surprise. Hydration levels, waste being held in the body, time of day, or whether he's eaten anything or not can affect scale weight. I've taken a 2 lb dump before. If he's not weighing himself at the same time under the same circumstances, it doesn't mean much. I like to do it first thing in the morning after I use the bathroom and before I've eaten.

    If he's maintaining and happy with the weight, he's fine. If he wants to lose the fat, he needs to eat less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    I've taken a 2 lb dump before.


    The concept (eating less/caloric deficit) is of course common sense, what I really wanted to know is, does the volume of food seem like a lot to other guys? What would be an example of your breakfast? (Especially on the weekend, if, like us, you may tend to have a bigger breakfast).
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    1 egg=70 cals
    4 egg whites=45 cals
    Cheese=100
    Mushrooms=20
    Texas Toast=200
    PB=200-300
    Yogurt=50
    Banana=100

    That is 785-885. Not that excessive depending on his goals/needs. Only issue I would see is lots of carbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetnLO View Post
    does the volume of food seem like a lot to other guys? What would be an example of your breakfast? (Especially on the weekend, if, like us, you may tend to have a bigger breakfast).
    I'm not a big breakfast, but I definately chow down at other times of the day. Lately I've been having a 1300 calorie shake. My daily total is around 3500-4000 and I only weight 155 lbs (gaining, mind you). So that breakfast really doesn't sound crazy to me. And look on the bright, side: it's healthy!

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    It all comes down to his entire day.

    Put his food into www.fitday.com

    If he wants to drop the belly, drop the cals 10-20% and get him lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreal View Post
    4 egg whites=45 cals
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    doesnt matter much but I thought an egg white had about 17 calories. not about 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetnLO View Post


    The concept (eating less/caloric deficit) is of course common sense, what I really wanted to know is, does the volume of food seem like a lot to other guys? What would be an example of your breakfast? (Especially on the weekend, if, like us, you may tend to have a bigger breakfast).
    This morning, I had onion and 8oz onions sauteed in olive oil and then 3 whole eggs and 3 whites scrambled in, topped with 2 slices of Fat free American cheese and 2 pieces of Aunt Millie's Fiber For Life Whole Wheat toast. It's in the neighborhood of 530 calories...so I guess what I'm saying is that I don't see it being really out of line. If I'd added peanut butter, that's right about where his breakfast was.
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    That's a pretty normal breakfast IMO...

    I eat 6 whole eggs with a bit of cheese and whatever meat is in my refrigerator, wrapped in 2 flour tortillas, a protein shake consisting of 2-3 cups milk, 3 scoops of Nitrean, a banana, oats, peanut butter and ice...
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    I don't think that sounds excessive at all, and if it keeps him full...then great. You don't HAVE to eat every 2-3 hours, and as long as his calories are in check throughout the day there should be no problem.

    I am a female that weighs around 130 at any given time and I'm pretty sure that under "normal" circumstances even I could eat that for a breakfast. For a 200 lb man, that's nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmpimpalot01 View Post
    doesnt matter much but I thought an egg white had about 17 calories. not about 11
    I thought they had around 20,.. either way, I think you're right...pretty sure it's probably on the higher end of teens as you said.

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    When I bulk I have The hungry man Burrito. 4 eggs, 2oz FF cheese, 3-4 slices of pan fried ham with fat free cooking spray. I will have this with a 16oz glass of fat free milk. And then maybe a banana or apple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D Breyer View Post
    That's a pretty normal breakfast IMO...

    I eat 6 whole eggs with a bit of cheese and whatever meat is in my refrigerator, wrapped in 2 flour tortillas, a protein shake consisting of 2-3 cups milk, 3 scoops of Nitrean, a banana, oats, peanut butter and ice...
    thats one hell of a breakfast. i usually get in 4 whole eggs with pepper and some frank's red hot (best hot sauce ever) and a big cup of yogurt with granola, and a 2 scooper nitrean shake if im still hungry.
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    im 16 years old and i dont even eat that much. but if hes hungry he should eat. if hes just trying to get protein then maybe lay off a bit of the food and grab a shake?
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    you guys eat breakfast like women!

    your friend isnt eating much man, i go along the lines of.
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    Stump got so excited thinking about food he didnt even finish his post!
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    Generally i don't eat a large breakfast because my mom's always bitching about eating too many eggs. Generally 2 scrambled eggs in a whole wheat tortilla, slice of swiss cheese, little ketchup and a bowl of oatmeal. rest of the day is when i pack in my cals lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp View Post
    you guys eat breakfast like women!

    your friend isnt eating much man, i go along the lines of.
    oh no! I can pack on food just as much as my bf he's in awe everytime i eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholy View Post
    Stump got so excited thinking about food he didnt even finish his post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholy View Post
    When I bulk I have The hungry man Burrito. 4 eggs, 2oz FF cheese, 3-4 slices of pan fried ham with fat free cooking spray. I will have this with a 16oz glass of fat free milk. And then maybe a banana or apple.
    Holy crap! I guess he's not doing so bad then...
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    Don't forget to throw in 1 liter of milk

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    -4 egg ham and cheese omlete
    -2 english muffins
    -bacon
    -sausage
    -home fries
    -french toast
    -cup of oatmeal

    ive had that multiple times
    2000 or bust

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