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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Senior Member BFGUITAR's Avatar
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    Another BGB question

    On day 3, for the width-back section, what can I do for my two workouts?
    I like the 5x5 chins but not a fan of hammer high rows (are they even effective... I dont liek machines).

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    I am in my second week and will be doing this exact workout tomorrow. I do narrow grip front lat pull downs. I was doing a wider grip, but it hurt my shoulders so I switched. I would also like to hear what others do for this lift. It is early enough for me to change and not be a big deal.

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    Dumbell pullover
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    I use an advanced row machine that doesnt put your body into a fixed position.
    First Bulk pics VS Starting pics, take a look!! http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...=1#post1616109

    Progress pics of a cut using bodyweight only movements http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...45#post2405745

    Generally, if you read a piece of advice on the internet, assume it's wrong until proven otherwise. This applies especially to "conventional wisdom". -Belial

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    ^^

    If you mean the pulley cable, that's less fixed than a solid machine, but still a fixed position. The word "machine" is still in there. What exactly is it?
    Last edited by sCaRz*Of*PaiN; 03-01-2007 at 04:35 PM.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    Any other suggestions that dont involve machines?

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    What IS the difference between a hammer high row and an incline bench press?
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    Whered the quote button go?

    Oh well- Scarz, its something like youre thinking. And youre right, its still a little fixed. The settings feel comfortable since you can change it to many degrees depending on the person.

    I donno, maybe I shouldnt be using it? I tried hammer rows with dumbells but they really hurt my shoulder.
    Last edited by RichMcGuire; 03-01-2007 at 11:39 PM.
    First Bulk pics VS Starting pics, take a look!! http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...=1#post1616109

    Progress pics of a cut using bodyweight only movements http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...45#post2405745

    Generally, if you read a piece of advice on the internet, assume it's wrong until proven otherwise. This applies especially to "conventional wisdom". -Belial

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    If something is causing pain, either check your form or find another variation of the exercise. Never do anything that causes pain. If that makes you feel more comfortable, than keep doing it. But if it's possible to find a free weight alternative, I'll suggest that instead of the machine. If an exercise just freaking hurts, maybe find another exercise to work the same muscle group(s). Safety first.
    Last edited by sCaRz*Of*PaiN; 03-01-2007 at 11:45 PM.
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    I should keep that in mind. Ive been experimenting with a lot of different movements. Maybe I can just do bent over rows twice a week and skip that machine. I know I shouldnt be using them..I felt guilty when I did use it, lol.
    First Bulk pics VS Starting pics, take a look!! http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...=1#post1616109

    Progress pics of a cut using bodyweight only movements http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...45#post2405745

    Generally, if you read a piece of advice on the internet, assume it's wrong until proven otherwise. This applies especially to "conventional wisdom". -Belial

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    I don't think the cable machine is as bad as other single motion machines, but I always think that recruiting as many muscles as possible via free weights is always the best option...but safety is important too. When I saw my physical therapist, he showed me how I could strengthen my weird hyper mobile shoulder joints with similar exercises, but with different angles or hand grips and it did wonders for me. I really appreciate having met that guy. He also taught me to do the deadlift and squat and he was a champion bodybuilder in the 80's. He's got massive stretch marks on his arms, lol. Cool.
    Last edited by sCaRz*Of*PaiN; 03-02-2007 at 12:02 AM.
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