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    Shoulder pain: I know the cause. I know what positions hurt. What the hell is it?

    I know a doctor is the only way to know anything for sure, but I'm still very interested in hearing what everyone thinks...

    So my left shoulder started feeling a little weird two days ago. I had a shoulder thing once before, but it was my right side. The left has always been fine.

    The pain is not constant. It's also probably more of an ache than a pain. Although, I'm not entirely sure what the differences are between the two.

    As I was saying, the pain is not constant. Sitting here typing I feel normal. It's only when my shoulder is put in certain positions that it starts to hurt. It doesn't hurt a lot, but I definitely feel something that doesn't feel good.

    If I do the motion of a lateral raise, it doesn't hurt. If I do a front raise, it doesn't hurt. If I do a bent over barbell row (or any row), it doesn't hurt. If I lay down and bench press an invisible bar, it doesn't hurt. If I do the motion of a dumbbell fly, it doesn't hurt.

    It appears to only hurt when I'm in a double-bi type pose. You know, like if you were doing overhead dumbbell presses. In fact, doing a pretend overhead press hurts. It doesn't hurt when my arms are fully extended or near fully extended in that position. It only starts to hurt when I get near parallel or below it.

    I am about 80% sure that the cause of this shoulder pain was sleeping in a strange position. You know sometimes you sleep on your hand or something and you wake up and your hand is asleep? Well, very recently I woke up and my left shoulder was asleep due to the very weird position I must have slept in.

    Actually, now that I think about it, in this sleeping position I am on my left side with my left forearm/hand under the pillow and my head on top of the pillow with all of my weight on my left shoulder. If I think about it some more, I realize that this position is VERY close (if not totally identical) to the position my shoulder starts to feel pain in. Change that 80% above to 99%. I am 99% sure my shoulder hurts due to sleeping in this position.

    My right shoulder, while not in any real pain like the left, also feels a little strange the last day or two. This would make some sense considering that upon waking up from this bad position on my left side, I roll over on to my right side in a similar way.

    So, the cause is most likely the way I slept. What I want to know is what the hell is it? Any guesses? Besides having a doctor check it out, any other opinions or ideas?

    Thanks in advance.

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    capsular issue? rotator cuff? hard to say

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    ive got something similar and it was diagnosed to be rotator cuff tendonitis. I was told to do light rotator cuff exercises, preferrably with resistance bands to rehab the cuff and strengthen it so it doesnt happen again.
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    Where does it hurt? What kind of pain is it?

    I'm no MD, but can probably give you some suggestions. Start here: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...16#post1618516
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Where does it hurt? What kind of pain is it?

    I'm no MD, but can probably give you some suggestions. Start here: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...16#post1618516
    It's not a shooting pain as in all of a sudden "Ouch! What the crap!!!!" The pain is similar to a stiff neck. If I leave my shoulder in a normal position, it feels normal. If I try to move it to a "stiff" side, it feels a little like it feels if you tried to turn your stiff neck to the "stiff" side.

    Most of the pain felt only occurs when my left side (it's my left shoulder that hurts) is in anything close to a bicep pose or the bottom position of an overhead press. It also hurts if I mimic the movement of a pec deck machine, but only if I try to go back too far... and ONLY if I pretend to be using the type of pec deck machine where at the end position you are in what looks like a double bi pose. If I do the same movement with my my arms straight, it doesn't hurt no matter how far back I try to go. If I do it with my arms at 90% angles, then it hurts when I go too far back.

    Any ideas? And thanks for your help, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstop View Post
    It's not a shooting pain as in all of a sudden "Ouch! What the crap!!!!" The pain is similar to a stiff neck. If I leave my shoulder in a normal position, it feels normal. If I try to move it to a "stiff" side, it feels a little like it feels if you tried to turn your stiff neck to the "stiff" side.

    Most of the pain felt only occurs when my left side (it's my left shoulder that hurts) is in anything close to a bicep pose or the bottom position of an overhead press. It also hurts if I mimic the movement of a pec deck machine, but only if I try to go back too far... and ONLY if I pretend to be using the type of pec deck machine where at the end position you are in what looks like a double bi pose. If I do the same movement with my my arms straight, it doesn't hurt no matter how far back I try to go. If I do it with my arms at 90% angles, then it hurts when I go too far back.

    Any ideas? And thanks for your help, by the way.
    Keep this position and now rotate your forarm down toward the floor while keeping your upper arm parallel with the floor, does that hurt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericg View Post
    Keep this position and now rotate your forarm down toward the floor while keeping your upper arm parallel with the floor, does that hurt?
    Nope, didn't really feel anything when doing that. Does that mean something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstop View Post
    Nope, didn't really feel anything when doing that. Does that mean something?
    Well if you felt any pain it would be an indication its the RC.
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    i am going in on monday to get a corticosteroid shot in my shoulder to lessen the inflammation.... you might want to talk to your doctor about the possibilities of this, because I hear it is a night and day difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoser813 View Post
    i am going in on monday to get a corticosteroid shot in my shoulder to lessen the inflammation.... you might want to talk to your doctor about the possibilities of this, because I hear it is a night and day difference.
    Have you tried a topical anti inflammatory? They work much better as they are area specific and are less drastic then a corticosteroid shot.
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    It sounds like maybe a scapular stabilization issue. What exercises do you do for your back?
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    you can have a trainer examine it... i would try to get a referral for phys therapy... shouldn't be to hard

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    Just an update on my shoulder in case anyone is interested...

    The problem started on a Saturday a few weeks ago, and felt worse the Sunday after that. It then felt slightly worse that Monday, slightly worse that Tuesday, slightly worse that Wednesday, etc. etc. and continued to feel gradually worse every day until the following Monday.

    On that Monday, towards the end of the day, I think I noticed it feeling maybe 10% better. I woke up the next day and it felt 50% better. The day after that I'd put my shoulder at about 99%, and then maybe a fully normal feeling 100% shoulder the day after that.

    It's been almost 2 weeks since it felt better, and it continues to feel pretty much 100% normal.

    I have no idea what it was and I'm still not completely sure what caused it, but it appears to have fixed itself pretty much out of nowhere.

    Thanks a lot to everyone who replied. It was very much appreciated. May all of your wacky shoulder injuries heal just the same.

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