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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    What certification do you need to become a Personal Trainer?

    I'm curious. I'm thinking about taking the courses part time.

    I dont really know what i need to take, but i did come across one course: AFLCA fitness theory at a local college.

    If any of you guys know what else i'd need to take, please let me know!

    Thanks

    P.S i'm in canada if it makes any difference

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    You can get a number of them online.

    ISSA, ACE, etc.

    Of the 'personal trainer' certifications, ISSA is probably the most respected and most useful.

    If you are really serious about getting into the S+C industry, NSCA is the way to go.
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    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    ^^^ have you ever heard of having some kind of certification, where it prevents you from being sued? (CFCF i think its called?)

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    No certification will prevent a lawsuit.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    There are dozens of certifications. Most of them will require that you "unlearn" a lot of stuff in order to pass. The decent ones will require a theory exam under supervision, a practical exam, and some will even require a certain number of experience hours.

    On top of getting certification, you need liability insurance to protect you against lawsuits.

    And you should also look into consent forms, waivers, PARQ, and PARX.
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    Don't forget you will have to lose about a 100lbs and tell everyone that squatting is bad for you.
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    Good thread i plan on getting a home course from ACE or ISSA to study and once i turn 18 take the test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp View Post
    Good thread i plan on getting a home course from ACE or ISSA to study and once i turn 18 take the test.
    ACE is pretty weak and is considered the bottom of the barrel as far reputable certs are concerned. You get what you pay for and ACE is one of the cheapest to get. ISSA and NASM are about the same price and are accepted in almost every gym. NSCA is very good but again, will cost more. So you should base your choice on where you want to work and how serious you are about going into this business. I am really glad to see more and more serious weight lifters becoming trainers because the trainers I see when I workout are pretty much clueless.
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    Ya i have wondered about this for a while. Someone told me about that CFCF (?) course where it protects you for liability up to a certaina mount of money. (i'm gonna call them tommorow and post the actual details here)

    There is a 3 day AFLCA course locally for $125, i'm gonna take that first then do the ISSA or something comparable. If i can do all this for under or arond $500 that would be awesome.

    Just a little something extra to have under my belt
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    cool thread. I've been having alot of thoughts about going into S&C as a career mabye. I'm in canada aswell so this will help me out. Now i just gotta turn 18 hahah.
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    From my friend who is cert crazy.

    Here are his impressions of a few

    ACSM, (really good cert), NASM (really good cert), ISSA (recognized in some countries internationally, so-so as far as the 'quality' of the program and cert), ACE (very recognized nationally but actually very crappy cert)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy View Post
    Ya i have wondered about this for a while. Someone told me about that CFCF (?) course where it protects you for liability up to a certaina mount of money. (i'm gonna call them tommorow and post the actual details here)
    You're thinking of NSCA-CSCS? Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist. But even still, it doesn't protect you from a lawsuit. You can get your liability insurance through the NSCA, so you have insurance in case you are sued but there's not a thing out there that will prevent you from being sued or involved in a lawsuit.

    I'm NSCA-CPT certified with insurance. That way at least you'll have some money to cover your ass if you do something stupid.
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    You need to have a college degree to get the SCS cert. from NSCA (not for the PT cert). Don't know about the others.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    You can take it while you're a college senior but they won't release your score until you graduate and send them a transcript. You also have to be CPR and AED certified. The CSCS is something I've been looking at. I'll technically be a senior over the summer and may look at doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    You also have to be CPR and AED certified.
    You need CPR for every cert out there... just incase something happens, you need to know how to respond. Its really no big deal, just a 4 hour class and a test at your local Red Cross place. Also about the lawsuit questions, as long as you have them sign the proper liability forms and document everything that happens between you and your client, then you shouldnt have a problem (unless you were, in fact, negligent).
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    you need a phd in 'search' heh.

    I'm working on my CFT for issa right now, seems easy enough but then again I've been learning things from here for over 2 years
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    K i got some conflicting info today

    I called the local college that offers these courses. And the person there told me not to even bother taking any certification courses because in 2 years, the only recognized "certification" will be a 2year diploma or degree.. based on some new government standards.

    She told me that if i planned to take these courses and use them for a buisness that in 2years, they would not be recognised at all.

    I dunno what to think about this info. I dont know where to get any other info.

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    sounds like a bid for your money, i doubt that'll happen since there's too many orgs that offer certs. Pluseven if its easy for people to get the certs, the crappy ones dont last long because they dont get clients
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    would it be a good idea to order the NSCA-CPT material soon so i can study over the summer as i get my CPR and get closer to 18?

    (not tryin to hijack roddy)
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    You're going to need a Bachelors Degree before they'll release your scores.

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    Actually you don't even need a cert to be a trainer. It is a good idea though.
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    That my be true, however if your life long dream is to work in a gym then you'll need that certification!

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