The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Question about M&F article

    So there was an article in Muscle and Fitness that struck me as odd and I wanted your input on it. It starts on page 163 of the March 2007 issue with Gunter and Kim Lyons on the cover. it's written by Chris Aceto who is apparently Jay Cutlers dietician. In this article he says any time your muscle:fat gain ratio is greater than 1 you will appear leaner. This seems blatantly incorrect to me because it would most likely still raise your body fat. He uses the example of gaining 6 pounds of muscle for every 3 pounds of fat. This would only make you leaner if your body fat was 50% or more unless I'm totally misunderstanding something. For example I'm currently 170 pounds (173 but 170 is easier to calculate) and I estimate myself at 10% body fat. This would mean I have 17 pounds of fat on my body. If I gained 30 pounds at the ratio of 2 pounds of muscle for every 1 pound of fat I would be 200 pounds with 27 pounds of fat. This would put me at 13.5% body fat, so then how would I appear leaner? Am I missing something?
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    2 lbs of muscle for every 1 lb of fat?Man thats incredible ratios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. D View Post
    2 lbs of muscle for every 1 lb of fat?Man thats incredible ratios.
    But your body fat percentage would still increase wouldn't it? Therefore you would appear less lean and not more lean?

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    omg this is upsetting me. i agree with you scottyboy. i cant figure out the calculation but it make sense if you gain 20 lbs of muscle, and 10 of fat, your bf% should go down. can someone help so i can have my sanity back?

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    can anyone help with this seemingly easy math problem? or can you just not gain fat+muscle at the same time and reduce your bf%?
    Last edited by PoutineEh; 03-06-2007 at 05:04 PM.

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    What a load of crap.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    220 pounds

    20% bodyfat

    44 pounds fat, 176 pounds lbm

    Gain 2 pounds muscle, 1 pound fat

    45 pounds fat, 178 lbm = 223 bw

    20.17937% bodyfat.

    Now, if you are 220 and 10%

    200 lbm, 20 fat

    add 2 pounds of muscle, one of fat, you get

    202 lbm, 21 fat

    223 pounds

    9.4% bodyfat.

    Perhaps Mr Aceto could use a math lesson, and would be well served to explain what he's talking about.

    But really, you got exactly what you deserved by purchasing Muscle and Fitness.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    I has a blog.
    I has a facebook.

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    thank you. weird how current bf% will determine if your bf% will go up or down by gaining 2:1 ratio...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg View Post
    220 pounds

    20% bodyfat

    44 pounds fat, 176 pounds lbm

    Gain 2 pounds muscle, 1 pound fat

    45 pounds fat, 178 lbm = 223 bw

    20.17937% bodyfat.

    Now, if you are 220 and 10%

    200 lbm, 20 fat

    add 2 pounds of muscle, one of fat, you get

    202 lbm, 21 fat

    223 pounds

    9.4% bodyfat.

    Perhaps Mr Aceto could use a math lesson, and would be well served to explain what he's talking about.

    But really, you got exactly what you deserved by purchasing Muscle and Fitness.
    I just wanted something to read between class while I ate my sandwich

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