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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Good rep weight for deadlift?

    Hows it going guys, I have been lifting for 15 months my max on bench is 305 I am 5'10 190 pounds. I just started doing deadlift. My question is since I am pretty strong in other areas should I approach deadlift heavy or work uo to it. I hit 300 my second time doing it. My question is that a good max? Or should I be doing more since my bench is 305? Up until now I had just been doing chest biceps abs and cardio, but I am trying to take it to the next level. My goal is to get up to 330 pounds on bench press within the next 2months. I am very confident I can do that I'm just not 100% sure about the deadlift. What I have been doing so far on deadlift is as follows: 135 for 10 reps, 185 for 8 reps 205 for 6 reps 255 for 4 reps then 275 for 2 reps 300 for 1 rep. Anyway I am for real about lifting I take it very seriously I respect the weight but I never fear it.

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    Were 4 exact same posts necessary?
    From 155 lbs to 200 lbs (PICS/VIDS INCLUDED)

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Superman- View Post
    Were 4 exact same posts necessary?
    I think he's on 5 now

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    It was an accident I am new to the site I just set up my profile thanks for pointing it out. I will pay more attn next time. Any suggestions on my question.

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    Is the question:

    Is 300 a good max?

    or

    what is a good rep weight?
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    Yeah I was wondering what a good max would be for somebody that can hit 305 on the bench. Who just started doing the deadlift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smiley View Post
    Yeah I was wondering what a good max would be for somebody that can hit 305 on the bench. Who just started doing the deadlift.

    It's a good lift, yes. The 1:1 ratio of bench:deadlift is usually not a good sign...unless you have real T-rex arms...I'm talking like Mini-me.

    Just build the lift up slow. Try and add 5-10 lbs a week on your work sets. You can progress quickly when you are new to deadlifting.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    Thanks for the feedback,now I have a better idea where to go with it.

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    i was able to gain about 35lbs in a month by doing low rep sets, like 5's, 3,s 2,s and onesies. from just starting to train on them.


    results not typical..........

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    ratio of 1.5/1 bodyweight is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitropipes View Post
    ratio of 1.5/1 bodyweight is good
    Ratio is a bad idea period.

    He's obviously never trained the lift, so he should just start fairly light to get the form down and keep adding weight.

    With that bench, you seem to know the idea of increasing weights regularly, so apply the same principal to the deadlift.
    Keep in mind you can't train the deadlift as often as the bench though. It's very easy to overtrain since the lift is way more taxing than the benchpress. I personally would not train it the same way as you doing singles every deadlift workout. I'd be able to do it, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't progress very well.

    That's just me though, you may be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smiley View Post
    Hows it going guys, I have been lifting for 15 months my max on bench is 305 I am 5'10 190 pounds. I just started doing deadlift. My question is since I am pretty strong in other areas should I approach deadlift heavy or work uo to it. I hit 300 my second time doing it. My question is that a good max? Or should I be doing more since my bench is 305? Up until now I had just been doing chest biceps abs and cardio, but I am trying to take it to the next level. My goal is to get up to 330 pounds on bench press within the next 2months. I am very confident I can do that I'm just not 100% sure about the deadlift. What I have been doing so far on deadlift is as follows: 135 for 10 reps, 185 for 8 reps 205 for 6 reps 255 for 4 reps then 275 for 2 reps 300 for 1 rep. Anyway I am for real about lifting I take it very seriously I respect the weight but I never fear it.
    That looks like a pretty good rep scheme. The ideal ratio that gets tossed around here is 300 bench, 400 squat, 500 dead. I'm like you though, I screwed around just doing benchd curls and abs for years until I found this site. My deadlift and bench are not too far off proportionally, but my squat is way low. Don't worry, just keep trying to add 5-10 lbs a week, take a week off when you need it and eat tons and it will increase substantially, especially since your new to it.

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    Thanks for the advice. I kind of figured I should start off light and work up. But I felt like going all out cause of my strength in other areas.But today I am sure feeling it in my lower back.I usually do chest twice a week, and I was wanting to work in deadlift once a week is that a good idea? And i realy appreciate all the answers to my questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smiley View Post
    Thanks for the advice. I kind of figured I should start off light and work up. But I felt like going all out cause of my strength in other areas.But today I am sure feeling it in my lower back.I usually do chest twice a week, and I was wanting to work in deadlift once a week is that a good idea? And i realy appreciate all the answers to my questions.
    Yeah, deads once a week.

    I'm training bench twice a week ATM, but I wouldn't do deads twice a week.
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