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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    cardio Q's

    I have a few questions regarding cardio.

    For your body to start burning fat you need to raise your heart rate 65%. is that true?

    If so then would raising your heart 70% burn more fat faster?

    Should you have a protein shake after a just cardio session? I was thinking maybe half a shake.

    What do you think about doing 20mins of cardio before a workout and then 20 mins after a workout?

    I can only do cardio for about 20 mins then I become really bored and must do something else. Does two 20 min cardio session equal one 40 min cardio session.

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    I'm not too sure about all of your questions, but doing cardio before weight lifting will burn enough glycogen out of your muscle cells to make your weight lifting ineffective.

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    Yeah, bates is right. You should definately lift before you do any cardio. That way, by the time you get to cardio you'll be burning fat instead of your glycogen stores.
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    <---agrees with CBates and BigChaseyChase on the the lifting before cardio.
    If you only do cardio, I would wait about 30 minutes to have some food. Some may dispute this.

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    Do you eat real food or have a shake half hour after cardio?

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    have a shake during cardio. hehe

    If it is a cardio day, then I personally will go for less filling supplements like glutamine mixed with Gatorade, or perhaps some other aminos and Creatine, then save the shakes for the weights.

    boredom? Take a walkman and go 20 mins on treadmill, 20 mins on bike or ergo - does the trick for me.

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    Do you eat real food or have a shake half hour after cardio?
    Well, b/c of work and time constrictions, I will normally have a shake of whey and malto (not that I'm trying to get an insulin boost,..it's just quick and easy) But, i would prefer whole food.

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    have a shake during cardio. heh
    shocker, you being serious man?

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    Originally posted by Slim Schaedle

    shocker, you being serious man?
    naw it was a joke, that would be a shake huh?
    like you are running on a treadmill and milk is going everywhere...hey, that's me!

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    lol, ya....the stuff would probably go through your system so fast and you'd sheet your pants on the threadmill. That wouldn't be a pretty sight

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    and you'd be slipping on crap flying out all over the people on the exercise bikes behind you. Then your slender blender gets caught on the controls when you are mixing in a banana and you have to press a the emergency stop button...

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    imagine the janitor that has to clean the poo off the mirrors
    (this is getting kinda nasty)

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    Yes, because the usual cleaning utensils not so much as mop it up as they do smear it around. Best thing to do is wait until it dries, is usually what I do when I poo on the mirror.

    Anyway you think cleaning the mirror is bad, imagine trying to get the pieces of corn out of the treadmill axel!

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    sounds like you've had experience doing this before

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    hehe

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    Cardio and weight training should be done on different days and not in the same session.
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    why did i open this thread?
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    Cripes, shut up freaks.


    Anyways, to answer your question, the 65% zone is the ideal zone for burning fat because it is high enough to require burning of extra energy from the body from unnecessary areas (fat for example) but not intense enough to require the body to create energy from more readily available sources such as the liver and muscles, etc. Thats the going theory.

    The theories behind this are basically that if you run at 70-80%, the body doesnt know if you are running for fitness or running from a horde of zombies, so it uses energy from wherever it can get it. The body basically goes into survival mode, doing what it can to stay standing, at the demise of your precious muscle tissue.

    I'm not saying I understand all of this or believe it, I'm just a simple caveman who is scared of your running machines. Me lift, me get big. This is just the overall opinion in nerdy cardio world.

    Friggin...jeez man, no. Good lord, no!

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    heh
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    screw the fat -burning zone. just do your cardio (HIIT is the best-imo). the fat burning happens outside of the gym. it's like trying to lift for fat-burning. it's stupid.
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    :withstupi HIIT rules,
    I get better results from doing 20 minutes, than some people i see in there for an hour.

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    but they are doing an hour in the fat-burning zone.
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    what is hiit?

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    high intensity interval training.

    http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html

    click on training, and then click on the article that says : "Fartlek- swedish for ass-whuppin"
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    thanks Tryska for the link. I'm going to try HIIT friday. I'll tell you how it went.

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