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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    I need a diet check please.

    Hey, I just want to make sure that I am doing okay here before I go further.

    I am currently doing wbb routine #1 and its going great.

    I'm eating between 2700 and 3000 cals per day

    I want to make sure my protein/fat/carb #'s are okay for my bulk.
    Today was:
    Fat=77g
    Carbs=329g
    protein=238g

    Please keep in mind I am skinny fat and am trying to not gain fat and I'm kind of trying to "tone up" before I cut. Should I lower my carbs?

    you can look at my fitday journal in my sig. I would love some criticism.

    Also, If i want to lose some fat while I'm on my bulk, would it be okay to do hiit?
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    Add more veggies and fibre to the diet. Add fish oil to the diet. Make sure the you get 1/3rd of your fats from sat,poly and mono and if you cant do that then get more from mono. Think nuts,avocados,natural peanut butter.

    Just concentrate on building muscle. Fat gain is inevitable while building muscle. Your caloric level should be fine for a nice,slow bulk. I would slightly lower your carbs and increase your fats. Your protein intake is more than adequate.

    Focus on the lifting and increasing weights each week. HIIT would be fine to add on an off day or after legs. On an off day treat it like a workout and make sure your pre and post nutrition are in order.
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    okay thank you very much. Also, I do take 2 fishoil softgels every day. Is that something I should put into fitday? What do you guys think of meal replacements (powder to mix with milk/water)?

    Lastly, where can I read about pre/post workout nutrition?

    Thank you so much, I have made a lot of improvements since I came to this website.
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    Check out the beautiful ladies' signature from above. Read ALL her articles!

    I would add the fish oil to fitday.

    Meal replacements are ok if you are on the run and need a quick meal that meets your macros. I like eating my food, but sometimes I have to make a smoothie to get my cals in by the time I want to be in bed.

    But I would just buy Nitrean from at large nutrition or ON 100% whey and make your own shakes (powder,milk,peanut butter,oats,fruit)

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    To much protein bro..
    If you eat more than your body weight in grams you can overload your liver
    and create serious problems..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet18 View Post
    To much protein bro..
    If you eat more than your body weight in grams you can overload your liver
    and create serious problems..
    Wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholy View Post
    Wrong.
    exactly my thoughts.


    I don't have too much protein do I?
    Also, I'm thinking about starting creatine. I think it will help fill me out.
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    I'll find you 10 or more sources...every article you'll ever read online says this..
    Check it out, give me 5 mins..

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    http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pr...nformation.htm

    Second paragraph down discusses liver problems

    As for any major whey protein side effects, there is debate over the excessive intake of protein over the long-term (whey protein or any protein). Some experts believe that long-term, excessive protein intake (again whey protein or any protein) may be associated with deteriorating kidney function. Interestingly enough, there isnít any research that supports the idea of kidney damage due to excessive protein intake, but many experts still insist that there is a risk. There are also some experts that believe excessive protein intake can damage the liver and possibly bring about osteoporosis over the long-term.
    http://www.mens-total-fitness.com/wh...e-effects.html

    4th paragraph down...

    So do tell me, who is wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet18 View Post
    So do tell me, who is wrong?
    You aren't wrong, but you aren't right either... No studies have been done, nothing.

    "there isnít any research that supports the idea of kidney damage due to excessive protein intake, but many experts still insist that there is a risk."

    They just believe it's a possibility. Just like taking viagra might give you an 18 hour erection, but probably won't.
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    I won't take my chances...
    I have one liver...
    I try not to do anything to over exceed the possibilities of me jacking it up

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    There isn't a risk with high protein intake and healthy kidneys. If you have already existing kidney problems, then you might have something to worry about. Kidney stones may be a concern, but only if you're not drinking enough fluids.

    And the reason they suggest Osteoporosis is because high amounts of protein can leech some of the calcium from you bones. But this issue is easily addressed by...eating more calcium. If you're going to be eating a lot protein, or eating a lot in general, make sure you're drinking plenty of water to keep your kidneys flushed.

    The amount of protein he's eating isn't going to "overload his liver". Sorry to break it to you.

    And I can Google too...

    http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/3/657
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    BTW... You keep saying liver, but these articles are about the kidneys...
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    http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pr...nformation.htm

    paragraph two..completely about liver...

    and look at the end of what I quoted...liver..

    I swear people can't read

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    Regardless of being able to read or not, the one thing that BOTH of your articles say is that it is EXTREMELY EXCESSIVE amounts of protein that can cause issues. They never quantify it, but I'm willing to bet it would be in the 10x the amount this guy is taking. Your worries are sort of paranoid if you ask me. But I'm not a scientist, just someone who can't read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet18 View Post
    http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pr...nformation.htm

    paragraph two..completely about liver...

    and look at the end of what I quoted...liver..

    I swear people can't read
    Please stop reading bodybuilding.com. And please use peer-reviewed studies. And please use links that actually work.
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    I'll read what I'd like, I'll believe what I'd like...
    and I'll advocate what I know to be true...

    Period

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet18 View Post
    I'll read what I'd like, I'll believe what I'd like...
    and I'll advocate what I know to be true...

    Period
    very hard to take someone called skeetskeet seriously
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    And Albert Einstein aint a rather intresting up name?

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    Did your parents name you Skeetskeet? If so, I want whatever they were on.
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    My names Schieler, parents called me skeet for short...skeeting is having sex with willing broads...

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    whoever said they didn't quantify is correct. I mean, too much of anything is harmful.

    anyway, how do I add fishoil to my fitday? Do I just add the 30 cals, 3 g of fat, 1.5 g polyunsaturated ????

    Doesn't seem like its even worth adding....
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    Quote Originally Posted by johny12345 View Post
    whoever said they didn't quantify is correct. I mean, too much of anything is harmful.

    anyway, how do I add fishoil to my fitday? Do I just add the 30 cals, 3 g of fat, 1.5 g polyunsaturated ????

    Doesn't seem like its even worth adding....
    I would add the fish oil to the custom foods and I would also up your fish oil intake to about 6-10g a day. I am OCD about caloric intake, so personally I would add, but i guess its up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet18 View Post
    I'll read what I'd like, I'll believe what I'd like...
    and I'll advocate what I know to be true...

    Period
    So screw science, right? Right...
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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