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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Natural Sugar vs Weight Gainer Supplements - Your Opinion?

    Can I make my own 'weight gainer' by mixing fruit juice and a variety of proteins? Weight Gainers contain sugar as a way to build up calories and bulk you out. Why not get these same calories from my fruit juice addiction and some protein powder? What do you think?

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    Why don't you head on over to the Recipes section for some healthier weight gain shake ideas? Your suggestion is not healthy.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    Fruit juices are often high in fructose which makes it far worse (from a body composition point of view) than the maltodextrin typically found in weight gain powders. Meaning you are likely to gain more fat bulking with 'fruit juice' than you would with weight gain powders.
    If you want vitamins from fruit. eat it.
    Last edited by Stackattack; 03-22-2007 at 05:47 PM.

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    I can't handle giving up my sweet juice addiction! What can I replace it with? Please help me - it's harder for me than quitting smoking was. I'm craving juice.

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    use oatmeal for carbs, some frozen fruit for flavour and splenda for sweetening.

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    So is 500 or 100 calories from juice in a shake better or worse than the same amount of calories from ice cream?

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    Well fruit juice is going to contain a lot of fructose. I thoroughly love eating my fruit so much more than drinking it

    Ice cream will likely contain sucrose (half fructose, half glucose) and likely saturated fat (which is needed in a diet). If you can get a good all natural ice cream like breyers, then I can see where it has a place in a weight gainer shake over an all fructose fruit juice.

    But like most things, nothing can be evaluated individually or in vacuum, its all about the BIG PICTURE and overall macros. You generally just cant evaluate each piece individually.

    I would use oats in the weight gainer shaker myself and a small serving of fruit, like 150g of strawberries or 60g of banana.

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    (Not that I eat ice cream, it was just for an example)

    Juice is to me, what junk is to a junkie. I get off on it just before a workout. High as a kite!

    It's my crux, my lifeline. I don't give a damn if I end up fat and ugly, as long as I get my juice fix!
    Last edited by Australian; 03-28-2007 at 10:51 PM.

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    Fructose isn't going to do a damn thing to your body composition in the long run, as long as it's not the centerpiece of your diet. Don't worry about it. Eat your fruit.
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    eat fruit, drink water.

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    I love the way we all come to completely different conclusions, blatantly contradicting each other in the same thread, yet for the time being we're all ok with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I love the way we all come to completely different conclusions, blatantly contradicting each other in the same thread, yet for the time being we're all ok with it.
    I thought we all came to the same basic opinion that fruit juice contains too much fructose and to eat fruit rather than drink it.

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    I came to the conclusion long ago that apple and strawberry juice is the best thing in my life other than my girl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. D View Post
    I thought we all came to the same basic opinion that fruit juice contains too much fructose and to eat fruit rather than drink it.
    1) Fructose is not nearly as bad for you as everyone here seems to be claiming. Even academically, the argument that he'd end up any fatter from eating fructose rather than maltodextrin doesn't stand up to much scrutiny.

    2) He's addicted to fruit juice not fruit, so how's that helpful? Besides, other than the fiber, very little is lost in the blending.

    3) He's still going to drink his fruit juice.


    Ergo, ipso facto, QED, we're not all in agreement.
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    Saying "ipso facto" out loud is kinda fun.

    I mean, not "make your afternoon" kind of fun, but still fun.



    Carry on.
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    ipso facto

    ipso facto

    ipso facto

    I do like that

    I agree with the consensus here *love!*. Strawberry juice is good tasting. Fructose is not evil. Water is good.

    *mutters under his breath* still better to eat your fruit tho

    Consensusing completed successfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    1]3) He's still going to drink his fruit juice.
    Damn straight!

    This is my favourite thread, ever. You guys are being so polite to one-another!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Australian View Post
    You guys are being so polite to one-another!
    SHUT UP
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
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    I mean that as nicely as possible.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
    "Alex is all knowing and perfect"-----Jane (loosely paraphrased)
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    1) everyone who has posted here is stupid and wrong
    2) I agree with everyone to eat more fruit and protein
    3) You should mix your fruit and protein together and whip it to make a "smoothie"
    4) I am a genius

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    5) No, you're not!

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