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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Bill Starr's 5x5 or....

    My daughter plays fastpitch softball and she ask for a weight training workout. I have heard of Bill Starr' 5x5 and Bigger Stronger Faster , but not sure which would be best for her. Anyone try either one ? If so which one would you suggest ?

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    Some stats on your daughter?

    hight weight, age?
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

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    I tried bill starrs 5x5 and I had some great strength gains on it. Never heard of bigger stronger faster. Do you have a link to it where we can have a look?
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    http://biggerfasterstronger.com/ Also, do a search - there have been a few threads about it over the years.

    A little more info about your daughter would be helpful. If she has no experience in the weight room, just doing a few exercises, developing flawless technique, and gradually pushing up the numbers in them would probably be enough.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    It's tough to put a beginner on Starr's 5x5 because it's based on percentages of your 1 or 5 rep max.

    Like Sensei said, just getting her in the gym doing some compound movements and working on technique is probably enough for now. I've found the WBB routines are great for beginners. Get her working with higher reps but doing the exercises from WBB1 to perfect her form and gradually start working with heavier weights/lower reps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deeder View Post
    It's tough to put a beginner on Starr's 5x5 because it's based on percentages of your 1 or 5 rep max.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Like Sensei said, just getting her in the gym doing some compound movements and working on technique is probably enough for now. I've found the WBB routines are great for beginners. Get her working with higher reps but doing the exercises from WBB1 to perfect her form and gradually start working with heavier weights/lower reps.
    Definitely, everybody knows that programs specialized for bodybuilding are the best for athletes competing in other sports.
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    to improve a SSP, just do it again and again (pitch, pitch, pitch) Crossfit will improve just about everything.
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    Is it in-season/preseason/offseason right now for fastpitch?

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