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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Why are shorter guys so much stronger?

    Basically every guy I see in the gym who is roughly 5'10" or below seem to bench between 225-300 on becnh? wtf? Its ****in insane.
    Last edited by IHaveToCrushYou; 04-06-2007 at 01:06 AM.

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    It's called hard work. They weren't born that way.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sCaRz*Of*PaiN View Post
    It's called hard work. They weren't born that way.
    +1, their height does not give them an advantage.
    Last edited by mikesbytes; 04-06-2007 at 01:28 AM.

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    No I know that, but I never see stronger tall guys.

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    There's a boatload of huge, tall guys at my gym.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    That makes me feel better, lol of the tall guys I hang out with I can bench the most (Im excluding squat and deadlift for this discussion) but the smaller guys outright blow us away. And its not like its only 1or 2 guys benching heavy, they all are. Call it jealousy but Ive worked my ass off for pretty much the last year and my bench is nowhere near that (not even 200 yet .

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    height really has nothing to do with it.

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    pure work ethic, hours trained not inches tall.

    i wanna be repping 225(+). i will get there though, my chest comes along the slowest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakish View Post
    my chest comes along the slowest.
    swap to dumbells.

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    I think I might try swappin to dumbells.

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    Shorter people do have advantage, their ROM is shorter. Thats why taller guys get heavier in powerlifting..

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    Its actually a case of Darwinism in progress...

    Shorter guys were tired of always getting made fun of and getting their a**es kicked, so they evolved...

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    roddy - i do a variety of db presses for chest. i bar bench less frequently
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    if your shorter you have less distance to move the weight, its like having two sprinters race, one do 60m, an the other do 100m, obviously the 60m sprinter is going to win in most cases..they also have more leverage as well

    these are known facts, its very simple physics, i dont get why people are lying about it

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    Let me chime in as one who knows about being a tall ass(6'9"). Taller people have certain mechanical disadvantages. BUT we have all sorts of fun potential to get reeealy big and strong.

    If you haven't broken 200 on the bench in a year, you may need some help with your program and technique. Also, at 190 it looks like you need to eat something, son.

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    i dont think being tall has anything to do with it this is going back to blaming stuff on your genetics

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    Short arms and short legs is the best type of body for weight lifting that is a facto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minime_moomey View Post
    Its actually a case of Darwinism in progress...

    Shorter guys were tired of always getting made fun of and getting their a**es kicked, so they evolved...
    I think there's more truth in that then people are giving you credit for lol

    PS I'm short and not strong

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    It's more about limb length than height, but height usually indicates limb length. Limb length = leverage. I know a guy who's 5'8" but has longer arms than me (I'm 5'11") and he has tons of trouble benching. He'd kill me on squats tho. If you ever watch a strongman competition, you'll hear them talk about how having long legs puts you at a disadvantage in deadlifts and squats, and you'll actually see the difference.
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    Smaller ROM.

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    But a taller person will generally weigh more..and should have more muscle mass

    I dont think the difference in height is as significant as you guys think. If you want to give credit anywhere..let it be their diet, and their training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzee View Post
    Short arms and short legs is the best type of body for weight lifting that is a facto!
    wrong. Short arms while deadlifting is not better than long arms...
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    Shorter ROM will make a huge difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2PACMAN2 View Post
    if your shorter you have less distance to move the weight, its like having two sprinters race, one do 60m, an the other do 100m, obviously the 60m sprinter is going to win in most cases..they also have more leverage as well

    these are known facts, its very simple physics, i dont get why people are lying about it
    This is WBB - genetic limitations do not exist, and hard work can conquer all. If you can't bench 500 raw, you need to work harder, eat more, and use more Nitrean.

    For a non-sarcastic reply: I think biomechanics definitely play a role in lifting. Obviously a 6'5" guy is going to have to squat much futher down to reach a legal depth than a 5'3" guy. However, there are many other factors involved and there are certainly tall guys who can squat more than shorter guys.

    Also, I thought having long arms was an advatange in the deadlift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialK View Post
    Also, I thought having long arms was an advatange in the deadlift?
    Short arms helps the bench. Long arms helps the dead. Generally.

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