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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Time to end this once and for all.

    Once again, the belt issue. Me and another friend have had a three day long argument on this.

    Me: Belt helps you lift more, and doesn't help strengthen your back.
    Friend 1: Belt protects you from back injury.
    My Response: If you have good form, you don't need to wear a belt. It also strengthens your core, allowing you to lift more.

    So who is right here? Me? Him? or both of us?

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    Search for "belt" on the search function and you'll probably find something to help you settle it.
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    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that using the belt would keep your abs and lower back from getting stronger, therefore having it fall behind your legs if you're squatting. Not good imo. Maybe ok on a max out but that's it.
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    No belt makes you not need to depend on a belt.

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    Belts have a place in training, guys. Everybody seems to think that if you wear a belt you never train your core...

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    I know your core gets trained with a belt, but I think the belt hold my core back from getting the full training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestsideWarrior View Post
    I know your core gets trained with a belt, but I think the belt hold my core back from getting the full training.
    That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that people assume that if you wear a belt, you never do any core work to get your core stronger, and that eventually your core will become weaker than your legs or what not.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestsideWarrior View Post
    I know your core gets trained with a belt, but I think the belt hold my core back from getting the full training.
    Well of course.. That's the idea... Otherwise there wouldn't be any point to wearing a belt.
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    A belt has actually helped me out cause it helped me learn to push my stomach upped my 5RM on squat by 10 pounds on my last set of 5x5 after bein stuck on 225 for so long. Used a belt one week and then bam it went up. And I would never DL without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestsideWarrior View Post
    Me: Belt helps you lift more, and doesn't help strengthen your back.
    Correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by WestsideWarrior View Post
    Friend 1: Belt protects you from back injury.
    Correct, but if you wear it all the time, you ARE going to end up with a weaker core.
    Quote Originally Posted by WestsideWarrior View Post
    My Response: If you have good form, you don't need to wear a belt. It also strengthens your core, allowing you to lift more.
    If you have good form and a strong enough core to support what you are lifting, you don't need a belt.

    Wearing a belt does not preclude developing strong abs.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    I love my belt. Makes me look like a badass.

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    No HB, thats why you've been getting smaller, because you use that damn belt. Haha. Just kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyBomber View Post
    I love my belt. Makes me look like a badass.
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    Love my belt keeps my back tight and good form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyBomber View Post
    I love my belt. Makes me look like a badass.
    No, being HUGE makes you look like a badass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPac View Post
    No, being HUGE makes you look like a badass.
    Psh, I've seen his pics. He's like 150LBs.


    Big lifts for a little fella though.


    As far as belts, it's pretty ignorant to be completely one-sided on the issue. They have their purpose. Should you use them all the time? No.
    Should you avoid them at all costs? No.

    Personally, the only time I would ever use one is on 1RM attempts or maybe even 2-3 rep sets with really heavy weight. Otherwise, I go completely raw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris686 View Post
    As far as belts, it's pretty ignorant to be completely one-sided on the issue. They have their purpose. Should you use them all the time? No.
    Should you avoid them at all costs? No.

    Personally, the only time I would ever use one is on 1RM attempts or maybe even 2-3 rep sets with really heavy weight. Otherwise, I go completely raw.
    I agree, that's exaclty how I use my belt.

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