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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Home Routine.

    Well schools almost out and I wont be able to lift free weights unless I get a job, which will hopefully be soon. But anyway, here it is.

    I have so many ideas for a 3 day split...but heres what I got so far

    Bar - dunno how much it weighs, found it today layin around the house

    Mon (shoulders, abs, legs)

    Front Raise - barxalot
    Milies - barxalot
    Crunches 5x20
    Step Ups - 5x5
    Squats - barxalot
    Standing CR (50lb bag)
    Reverse CR (^^)

    Wed (chest, tri)

    Push Ups - Elevated + 50lb bag
    Bench - barxalot
    Gullotine - barxalot
    Dips - CG - 2x10, WG - 2x10
    Skulls - barxalot

    Fri (back, bi)

    B.O Row - barxalot
    Dead - barxalot
    Curl - barxalot
    Pull Ups - 5x5

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    You need to get some weights from a thrift shop or a yard sale or something. You and I both know that you are gonna get nowhere with bar x alot.

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    Ya, try to find some weights, in the mean time try one legged squats with the bar.
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    You pack on mass either way....high weight/low reps...high reps/low weight....but yeah, i'm not trying gain mass, i'm trying to keep where i'm at now untill I get a gym membership.

    And with the bar I'll be working on my form.

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    Actually you don't gain with high reps/low weight. By your logic I'd be benchpressing the bar 5 sets of barx30 and that'd be the same as doing 5 sets of 5x270 right? Don't think so.

    Edit: If you try and say that's not what you meant, i've seen you write out something almost exactly like what I wrote. Figure i'd put this in here before you have a chance to dispute what you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talking_God View Post
    Actually you don't gain with high reps/low weight. By your logic I'd be bench pressing the bar 5 sets of barx30 and that'd be the same as doing 5 sets of 5x270 right? Don't think so.

    Edit: If you try and say that's not what you meant, i've seen you write out something almost exactly like what I wrote. Figure i'd put this in here before you have a chance to dispute what you said.
    Thanks for the correction. And I admitted I was wrong in the same thread.

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    Hey T_G...

    1 Lb = 4.4 N (4.44822162)
    1 Ft = 0.30 M (0.3048)

    Work = Force x Distance

    45lbs x 20 reps

    Force - 45lbs = 198 N
    Distance - 1 Ft = .30 M
    Work = 1188 J

    (198 x .30)20 = 1188 J

    180lbs x 5 Reps

    Force = 180lbs = 792 N
    Distance - 1 Ft = .30 M
    Work = 1188 J

    (792 x .30)5 = 1188 J

    Should I try again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestsideWarrior View Post
    Hey T_G...

    1 Lb = 4.4 N (4.44822162)
    1 Ft = 0.30 M (0.3048)

    Work = Force x Distance

    45lbs x 20 reps

    Force - 45lbs = 198 N
    Distance - 1 Ft = .30 M
    Work = 1188 J

    (198 x .30)20 = 1188 J

    180lbs x 5 Reps

    Force = 180lbs = 792 N
    Distance - 1 Ft = .30 M
    Work = 1188 J

    (792 x .30)5 = 1188 J

    Should I try again?
    Where's your proof that work = mass? Come on, deep down you know that logic doesn't fly.
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    Mass - amount of matter in an object

    Its in the back of my head, but I'm gonna prove it's true. I just don't give up.
    Last edited by WestsideWarrior; 04-29-2007 at 07:43 PM.

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    so your gunna lift with a bar that you found lying around you house...with a rep/set scheme of bar*alot?

    you will not be gaining mass through that kind of work.
    STEP UP TO THE (pullup)BAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakish View Post
    so your gunna lift with a bar that you found lying around you house...with a rep/set scheme of bar*alot?

    you will not be gaining mass through that kind of work.
    you must have not read the above posts. Try number 4.

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    no, i read the above posts...i just think a whole routine based on a bar*alot is odd, even if you want to work on form.

    my suggestion would be to get a pullup bar, incorporate pulls/chins/towel pulls&hangs/raises/etc. into that intermediate routine.

    you can certainly use a BB to get your form down, but there's no need to work bar*alot on form.
    STEP UP TO THE (pullup)BAR.
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    Don't try and talk down to my with physics, I could talk circles around you on the subject. From a math standpoint, yeah its the same amount of work output, I already showed that with my first post. Just because it's the same work output mathematically doesn't mean it works your body the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestsideWarrior View Post
    Thanks for the correction. And I admitted I was wrong in the same thread.
    If you admitted you were wrong, why continue trying to find new ways to prove you're correct..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakish View Post
    no, i read the above posts...i just think a whole routine based on a bar*alot is odd, even if you want to work on form.

    my suggestion would be to get a pullup bar, incorporate pulls/chins/towel pulls&hangs/raises/etc. into that intermediate routine.

    you can certainly use a BB to get your form down, but there's no need to work bar*alot on form.
    Yeah, I didn't mean it like rep after another, just trying to work on my form untill I feel as I got it down. Like If I lean too far on squat form, I do it again.

    I already have the pull up thing coverd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talking_God View Post
    If you admitted you were wrong, why continue trying to find new ways to prove you're correct..
    Because I didn't fully think out. Compare that post to my one above.

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    I can squat 235*5, so with your perfect logic I can squat over 1,000! Christ I can't wait to try that at the gym (and die.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Steady View Post
    I can squat 235*5, so with your perfect logic I can squat over 1,000! Christ I can't wait to try that at the gym (and die.)

    Thanks Westie!!!!
    My point exactly
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    yeah ive seen some HUGE guys from just squatting the bar alot of times!! Just buy some plates man. Also, build or buy a pulling sled-there are many exercises you can do with it!

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    LOL @ Westie.

    Okay, you guys win, I give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestsideWarrior View Post
    LOL @ Westie.

    Okay, you guys win, I give up.
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    Yes, your google understanding of physics is quite good. Get a real understanding of what that means though.. While a 500hp and 20hp engine can do the same amount of work, you can't compare the two..

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