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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sCaRz*Of*PaiN View Post
    I may very well open up my own gym one of these days. I will have a huge sign by the squat racks that says "Only squats will be done in the squat rack. Thank you."

    That's gonna be classic!

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    Whats the actual benefit in curling in the squat rack?

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    So much hate for planet fitness. Thats where I work out right now, which is okay by me. Sure the heavy weights are meager pickings, but I'm not anywhere close to maxxed out. If it wasn't for their el-cheapo $10/mo memberships I never would have started lifting. I will be more than happy to trade up Planet Fitness for a more meathead oriented gym, as soon as its worth me paying for the extra weight. Oh, plus it helps that the guy running the place when I go in is a monster.

    And I second the question about curling in the squat rack.. heaven forbid they put the bar on the ground and have to use a muscle or two to get it up to start curls?

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    Scars, gyms exist for profit, not for meatheads. Your friend has a tough road to hoe - eventually he may have to cater to 'the dark side' and install a bunch of cardio machines for high-turnover cardio bunnies who will fork over the $50 for a monthly membership, come twice, and never return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesbytes View Post
    Whats the actual benefit in curling in the squat rack?
    In case you fail on a set of curls, of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesbytes View Post
    Whats the actual benefit in curling in the squat rack?
    You don't have to pick the weight up from the floor. God forbid if you had to deadlift 75 lbs.
    Quote Originally Posted by McIrish View Post
    Scars, gyms exist for profit, not for meatheads. Your friend has a tough road to hoe - eventually he may have to cater to 'the dark side' and install a bunch of cardio machines for high-turnover cardio bunnies who will fork over the $50 for a monthly membership, come twice, and never return.
    You can still have cardio machines and meat heads. Just install a women's section. My gym has one. It consists of an elliptical, a treadmill and a couple of universals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McIrish View Post
    Scars, gyms exist for profit, not for meatheads. Your friend has a tough road to hoe - eventually he may have to cater to 'the dark side' and install a bunch of cardio machines for high-turnover cardio bunnies who will fork over the $50 for a monthly membership, come twice, and never return.
    I'm going to agree with McI on this one. Gyms won't stay open long if they can not cater to the majority of the fitness populations needs. We all know that the people who actually go to the gym to train the squat, deadlift, and press on a regular basis are the minority, and it will be hard to keep a business a float if you are not versitile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSpikeyThing View Post
    That's crazy. I thought I was pissed because a guy was doing upright rows in the squat rack with 95 lbs....there were two empty bars beside the squat rack that I could have been using
    Hope the new gym goes through - sounds like a good time
    I had a guy doing the same yesterday with 65 lbs.... and he was making some guy that wanted to squat wait! Oh man I wanted to go over there and give him hell.... but I figured it wasn't worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sCaRz*Of*PaiN View Post
    Money isn't an issue and neither is space. That's literally all I'm going to have in my garage besides tools and whatnot. They do have to be quality though, since I'll have them for years. But after I get a house, my fiance wants to work out with me, so I need to have some on the lighter side as well.
    Scarz, I have Powerblocks and sell them. They're simply the best and cheapest dumbbells out there (no, I'm not trying to sell you on anything I'm being completely honest). The set from 2.5-50lbs is $448. The add on kit to 90lbs is an additional $288. The next add on kit up to 130lbs is another $488 on top of everything. And yes, those are 2.5lb increments. I got the 50lb set right now and getting the add on kit to 90lbs within the next week or two. If anyone wants to take a look at what they look like, go to the 'home gym gallery' thread and check out my gym. They're NOT blocky/awkward by any means unless you plan on performing wrist curls or skull crushers with one dumbbell.
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    Pretty soon all gyms will be catered toward people getting 'toned' and in order to lift heavy and put some size on you will need a home gym. It's sad.

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    I'll play devils advocate here. Most of the people seem to agree that very few people at their gym squat. If this is true, and curling in the squat rack is the most convenient place to curl, what's the big deal? At our university gym there really isn't any other place to curl. If you carried a bar to an empty floor space you'd be in the way of people moving around the gym. Some gyms don't have extra floor space to do deadlifts or curls.
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    Every gym I've seen this in, there has been plenty of room to do curls elsewhere. "What's the big deal?" Um......


    Quote Originally Posted by Keith
    Scarz, I have Powerblocks and sell them. They're simply the best and cheapest dumbbells out there (no, I'm not trying to sell you on anything I'm being completely honest). The set from 2.5-50lbs is $448. The add on kit to 90lbs is an additional $288. The next add on kit up to 130lbs is another $488 on top of everything. And yes, those are 2.5lb increments. I got the 50lb set right now and getting the add on kit to 90lbs within the next week or two. If anyone wants to take a look at what they look like, go to the 'home gym gallery' thread and check out my gym. They're NOT blocky/awkward by any means unless you plan on performing wrist curls or skull crushers with one dumbbell.
    I just went on their website. Those things are huge.
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    Scarz: Knowing you reputation for sarcasm, I actually thought you were kidding with this thread. I thought you were making fun of all those who complain about "my gym sucks because they don't allow _______". Then I realized you were serious.

    I share your hate for crappy "fitness centers" that are in it only to make money and want to eliminate anyone with a shred of desire to actually get stronger and use the equipment frequently. Alas, it's a sad byproduct of our litigious society we live in these days (at least here in the good ole' U, S, of A) and unabashed capitalism at it's finest.

    The said thing is, by gyms perpetuating stereotypes by having "lunk alarms" and places like "Powerhouse Gym" not allowing actual "powerhouses" (the irony), the people who actually initiated the strength training/bodybuilding craze that helped create the fitness industry in the first place are being alienated and marginalized. It's like "Thanks guys, but we don't need your big dinosaur asses around here anymore." It's a big slap in the face if you ask me.

    I wish there were some way to fight back against the cheesy commercialism and snake-oil trickery that's out there these days and educate people about how to stop wasting there time with the crappy fad workouts and diets that are out there and help them achieve their goals of becoming fit, productive members of society. I think it's too late, though, for most. Most people have settled into a crappy lifestyle that they've been brainwashed to beleive is the American way thanks to years of ads and the spread of poor information by the mass media that preys on people's ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesbytes View Post
    Whats the actual benefit in curling in the squat rack?
    So you can admire your arms in the mirror?

    The squat rack is in a postion where the carido bunnies can see you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    Scarz: Knowing you reputation for sarcasm, I actually thought you were kidding with this thread. I thought you were making fun of all those who complain about "my gym sucks because they don't allow _______". Then I realized you were serious.

    I share your hate for crappy "fitness centers" that are in it only to make money and want to eliminate anyone with a shred of desire to actually get stronger and use the equipment frequently. Alas, it's a sad byproduct of our litigious society we live in these days (at least here in the good ole' U, S, of A) and unabashed capitalism at it's finest.

    The said thing is, by gyms perpetuating stereotypes by having "lunk alarms" and places like "Powerhouse Gym" not allowing actual "powerhouses" (the irony), the people who actually initiated the strength training/bodybuilding craze that helped create the fitness industry in the first place are being alienated and marginalized. It's like "Thanks guys, but we don't need your big dinosaur asses around here anymore." It's a big slap in the face if you ask me.

    I wish there were some way to fight back against the cheesy commercialism and snake-oil trickery that's out there these days and educate people about how to stop wasting there time with the crappy fad workouts and diets that are out there and help them achieve their goals of becoming fit, productive members of society. I think it's too late, though, for most. Most people have settled into a crappy lifestyle that they've been brainwashed to beleive is the American way thanks to years of ads and the spread of poor information by the mass media that preys on people's ignorance.

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    I'm glad your friends have done their part to help fight against it. [/rant]
    That's exactly my thoughts as well. It really is awful. That's why I'm quitting Anytime Fitness and switching over to my buddy's gym. I want to support him and his attempt at "fighting back" at all this nonsense. It's already hard enough trying to filter out the good information from all the BS that the mass media are spewing, and kicking out the guys that actually make learning about nutrition and fitness their lifestyle are being kicked out for being "those kind of people". Oh...I forgot to mention that my buddy has multiple degrees in nutrition and exercise training. But he wasn't "training the clients correctly"...whatever that means. It certainly wasn't about money because he quit his other job because he was overflowing with clients at this place I'm at right now. Everyone wanted to work out with him. He was bringing in plenty of money...they just didn't like his way of doing things. They'd rather show their clients how to do one-eighth squats and various other goodies. He was the most knowledgeable person in the gym. You don't become the largest person in the city and bringing home first place trophies without knowing SOMETHING about this stuff. =\ Meh...
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    LOL. Thank God my gym is managed by a group of jacked Israeli guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sCaRz*Of*PaiN View Post
    I just went on their website. Those things are huge.
    Not at all. A 90lb and 50lb dumbbell is slightly BIGGER than the powerblocks at that weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler View Post
    LOL. Thank God my gym is managed by a group of jacked Israeli guys.
    I only know of two gyms like that.
    Garnet Williams, and the Pavilion.

    According to your location, you go to the Pavillion? Thats like 10-15 min away from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sCaRz*Of*PaiN View Post
    Money isn't an issue and neither is space. That's literally all I'm going to have in my garage besides tools and whatnot. They do have to be quality though, since I'll have them for years. But after I get a house, my fiance wants to work out with me, so I need to have some on the lighter side as well.
    I'd love to own a personal gym someday. But I'd have to probably be really rich, to reconstruct the flooring so it can support all the weights I'm gonna have in there. The garage is not ideal, unless you wanna work out with the rain pouring down on ya, or the sun blinding ya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Not at all. A 90lb and 50lb dumbbell is slightly BIGGER than the powerblocks at that weight.
    Oh really? I may very well get those then to conserve garage space. I don't know how big my garage is going to be because I haven't gone searching for a house yet. I have a question though ... can you have multiple PowerBlocks on the same rack? Like say ... 4? Because I'd want my fiance to be able to workout with them at the same time as me. Waiting to use them would be a waste. Less than 900 dollars for a set that goes from 2.5 - 130 pounds. That's a good deal ... especially with the insane amount of space you'll be saving and it won't be a pain in the arse if you have have to move.


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    Scarz!

    Dude, so sorry to hear about your seriously bad luck with injuries, that sucks so bad. I'm really sorry
    Dude, it's fine. It's just been a very big setback. It hasn't stopped me. Thanks for the sympathy, though. I'm ok. Things are finally working out.
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    I'd get powerblocks only if they went up to at least 120 lbs.
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    I got told I can't deadlift yesterday, similar to LibertyDante who lifts at our college gym as well. He got told last week and I was given the same reasons today; the floor (covered in 6 inches of rubber) can't handle barbells being dropped on them (all of our plates are rubber coated as well) and it's also loud when people grunt during deadlifts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikkstah View Post
    I got told I can't deadlift yesterday, similar to LibertyDante who lifts at our college gym as well. He got told last week and I was given the same reasons today; the floor (covered in 6 inches of rubber) can't handle barbells being dropped on them (all of our plates are rubber coated as well) and it's also loud when people grunt during deadlifts.


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    That's weak. The college gym I lift at (U of Illinois) lets my powerlifting team have a corner of the gym with all our own equipment. We have a Forza deadlift platform and Forza pro bench, boxes, chains, boards, weight trees, and our own bars all to ourselves. We can use chalk and powder (as long as we don't make too much of a mess). We can grunt and yell as much as we want. We're lucky to have such understanding and accomodating people that oversee the facility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    I'd get powerblocks only if they went up to at least 120 lbs.
    They go up to 130.
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