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    Caution-Just Drink Water if you loose water weight rapidly

    JIC anyone is competing for a contest and are using techniques to loose some last minute water weight before a weigh-in.... (I know I did in Dec. and will again - using built's great info http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=288)

    Just drink water NOT sports drinks or anything with sodium!!
    ... it may seem like common sense, but I had always heard to drink Gatorade or Pedialite..

    Anyway... here is a new article that explains why... and then a link to more technical info...
    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/just_drink_water.htm
    http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic263.htm

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    Interesting. Slightly contradictory to a lot of what I've read and understand; I'd be interested to hear the specifics. (Ideal make-up of rehydration beverages following diuretic use or severely dehydrating activity, any arguments from the gatorade side, etc.)

    Any nurses, MDs, etc., in here who know the clinical protocol for severely dehydrated patients? I always thought it was a simple saline/LR drip.

    Most oral rehydration therapies are about 75-100mmol/L sodium (2.5 to 3.5-ish grams per liter... at least, this is the WHO regulation), and Gatorade is only 0.5 grams per liter. Pedialyte is 1 gram per liter.

    So it would seem that even these aren't quite enough. So the WHO is crazy?
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    bearwolf...i always heard to drink coffee or tea, or some type of astringent a few days before a competition...is this still valid?

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    Belial, perhaps it has to do with the WAY the person dehydrates.

    In bearwolf's case, we had him leave salt at normal levels until partway through the last day - so he peed out some of his salt until the ol' hormones kicked in to prevent its excretion. He cut back water at this point, so sodium would concentrate as he continued to pee out water. We never really cut sodium very hard, he wasn't depleted in that way - but of course aldosterone would have been trying to hang onto whatever salt there was while he continued to dry out.

    I imagine this is different from when dehydration is imposed rather than planned - IE with a ton of water to pee out before the body tries to concentrate a dwindling sodium supply. A little birdie tells me the WHO might be a bit more concerned with this situation than with deliberate water manipulation of athletes making weight.

    Either that, or I'm too sleep-deprived to be coherent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    I imagine this is different from when dehydration is imposed rather than planned
    Tell me exactly how the body can know the difference?

    Regardless of intent or protocol, the end result is the same. There is no difference in amount of sodium retained by the body, aldosterone/ADH secretion, etc.

    And the WHO does not specify different rehydration protocols depending on cause (chronic water loss through illness, acute water loss through heat, etc.)

    Thus, tell the little birdie to shut the hell up, it doesn't really know what it's talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    The birdie was delicious. I roasted him in butter and garlic.

    I really have something against little birdies. They're kinda like little dogs.
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    WHO you TWO talkin about?


    Belial- you're such a dumb meathead jock.

    When we used the pedialyte to rehydrate for my last meet we used 50/50 water/pedialyte mix. It worked like a charm and I think my brain is fine. Perhaps not.
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