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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Kentucky Derby '07

    It's nearly that time of year. I've said before, it's perhaps the single best sporting event I've seen in person. I've done both the real seats (in the grandstand) and the infield experience. Both are incredible with a great atmosphere. Anyone planning on attending this year?

    I'll update my picks as race day gets closer, but here are my *tentative* top contenders:

    Circular Quay
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    I have always wondered ..... do they serve KCF at the Derby?


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    Quote Originally Posted by seK View Post
    I have always wondered ..... do they serve KCF at the Derby?


    you mean KFC, right? *snicker*
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    Quote Originally Posted by ectx View Post
    you mean KFC, right? *snicker*
    Damn it really helps when you don't misspell your witty/stupid comments.

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    I live in KY and I have never been to the Derby, nor do I ever plan to go. I just don't get off on seeing horses run around a track.

    I go to the University of Louisville also, which is literally 5 minutes from there!
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    Are you a hermit? I've never met anyone from KY that hasn't gone to Derby. There's a lot more to it then watching horses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    There's a lot more to it then watching horses.
    That's the truth. If you're in the infield, the actual horse racing is about 1% of the fun. I'm sure he wouldn't like watching the scantily clad women running around everywhere.....
    Last edited by razorcut; 04-13-2007 at 05:50 PM.
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    Isn't it the National this weekend?

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    Two weeks out today and the general consensus is these are the top 5 favorites:

    1. Street Sense
    2. Nobiz Like Shobiz
    3. Scat Daddy
    4. Curlin
    5. Hard Spun

    I would still throw Circular Quay, Any Given Saturday, and Tiago into the mix. More updates to come.....
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Razor - is that restaurant(s) at Churchill Downs still open year-round? Or just during major races?

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    The upscale is open year round, but I'm fairly sure it's only weekends.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorcut View Post
    The upscale is open year round, but I'm fairly sure it's only weekends.
    They must not want to poison the servers with the fumes wafting in from W. Louisville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootermcgavin7 View Post
    They must not want to poison the servers with the fumes wafting in from W. Louisville.
    I think that's just the smell of horses asses from the track.

    Getting closer to race day. Post draw tonight at 5pm EST on espn2. Although it may seem trivial at first glance, post position is very important in a race this size. Since 1900, post positions 17 and 19 have NEVER won the race. Keep that in mind w/your betting. I'll update my handicapping later on in the week....
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorcut View Post
    Although it may seem trivial at first glance, post position is very important in a race this size.
    Remember it's not the start of the race that's important, it's the finish
    A race of that distance I would have thought that barrier positions wouldn't be all that important? How far to the first turn? How many horses are usually in it? Dirt or turf track? I don't know anything about the Kentucky Derby, I will have a look on wikipedia for it.

    Found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_derby
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    Quote Originally Posted by fen2zla View Post
    A race of that distance I would have thought that barrier positions wouldn't be all that important?
    Actually they're more important with a field this large. In a usual race (6-8 horses) there's not much jockeying for position going into the 1st turn. However, with 20 horses that changes the dynamics of the race dramatically. Horses on the far posts (16-20) run the risk of still being quite wide on that 1st turn. That essentially means they're covering much more ground than a similar horse close to the rail.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    The handicapping is done. Here are my picks (for entertainment purposes only):

    Win -- CIRCULAR QUAY will fund my children's college education
    Place -- HARD SPUN
    Show -- SANJERO
    #4 -- STREET SENSE
    #5 -- SCAT DADDY

    Happy Derby. I'll check in later on for some post-race analysis.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Nobiz like Shobiz
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    Scat daddy

    Im going with Nobiz even though the whole balance thing.
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    Nice race today. Luckily I did a $2 exacta box with my top four horses which broke me even for the day. Street Sense is the real deal. I was hesitant to bet him as my winner due to the "Juvenile Jinx".....no juvenile champion for the last 23 years had won the KY Derby. Now that he has that monkey off his back, the triple crown run could be interesting. Further updates on the Preakness (May 19th) to come.....
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    yeah it was a fun day of races. i thought that was the 1 horse that won at first because the number was flap over. i almost through my ticket away haha...ended the day 59 bucks plus. probley 70 plus if it wasnt for all the mint juleps i drank
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    Hey, if you guys like horse racing, check out this link. my cousins jsut made a Horce racing documentary and the premier was this weekend @ the ESPN Tribeca film festival. It's an awesome flick. Click and watch the trailer....

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    Limited time to get any solid handicapping done on the Preakness. Here's my breakdown from a (brief) review:

    WIN -- Curlin: Dominant until a 3rd place Derby finish. Wet track favors him today.
    PLACE -- Street Sense: a wet track doesn't help him today. I had him as my winner until about 20 min ago. IF he wins today, I predict he WILL be the first Triple Crown winner since '78.
    SHOW -- Flying First Class: Got a late tip today on this horse. Should be the pacesetter.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Win: Street Sense (who made me some bank during the derby)
    Place: Curlin
    Show: HardSpun

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    Too bad you didn't box those three or you could have had the trifecta. I hit the exacta again yesterday, so I came out ahead.....barely. Early word is that Street Sense probably won't run the Belmont.
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Sorry I didn't get my picks out for the Belmont this past Saturday. The heavy favorite (Curlin) was beaten by a Filly (Rags to Ritches). She was the first Filly to win the Belmont in over century.

    Fortunately I threw her in an exacta box which allowed me to break even for the day. The end of Triple Crown season is always a little depressing for me. The countdown to Derby '08 has already begun! Until then....
    I know you're half-crazy, but I wish you'd go all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorcut View Post
    The end of Triple Crown season is always a little depressing for me.
    Hey, you can always tell yourself "At least I'm not Barbaro".

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