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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Why would anyone do barbell bench press?

    If you had access to dumbells why would anyone who wanted a symmetrical body do barbell instead of dumbell bench presses? Am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arya202 View Post
    Am I missing something?
    Probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBoy View Post
    Probably.
    definatly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arya202 View Post
    If you had access to dumbells why would anyone who wanted a symmetrical body do barbell instead of dumbell bench presses? Am I missing something?
    Out of curiosity, how heavy are the db's you are pressing?

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    not many gyms I have been to have db's over 100 lbs. each
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natetaco View Post
    definatly.
    Most likely.

    To get serious to the OP, have you ever picked up a 100lbs dumbbell? Maybe you have, you could probably get some that weigh more. Now to do a bench press with dumbbells you would have to position the weights while you get ready to bench. Unless you are the Incredible Hulk or Superman, I think most humans would be satisfied with just pushing a bar off a rack and benching like that. Also, I am not sure if most spotter's are able to spot someone benching 200lbs+ with dumbbells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natetaco View Post
    definatly.
    Obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arya202 View Post
    If you had access to dumbells why would anyone who wanted a symmetrical body do barbell instead of dumbell bench presses? Am I missing something?
    I do both actually and I love it. I dumbell press with 110-115 lb dumbbells on one chest day... then the next chest day I use the barbell. My gym's dumbbells go up to 125lbs.

    Why do you feel it's unnecessary to use the barbell, i'm curious?
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    I use mostly dumbells in my chest routine as well. I have a long way to go before the gym can't handle my chest power though...LOL
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    I do both, but picking up the heavy DB's prior to doing the exercise is a PITA. I can DB press more than I can pick up I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDS View Post
    I do both, but picking up the heavy DB's prior to doing the exercise is a PITA. I can DB press more than I can pick up I guess?
    You should be able to. Most people would be able to deadlift more than they bench unless they just emphasize a bunch on the benchpress.

    I don't use dumbbells often myself. My gym only has them up to 100LBs I think, and it's hard enough getting those things on my chest, but it can be done fairly easy with practice.
    Secondly, I'm not too far off from being limited by those weights.
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    i basically deadlift the dumbbells to my thighs and sit down on the bench, then wait a second, then lay down, bringing them back to my chest. it's easy once you get the hang of it. My only beef is that I have to drag the dumbbells quite a ways to the bench i use.
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    people who use dumbbells are just afraid of benchpressing and loading on some some real weight :P
    nothing like grabbing the bar with it loaded heavy then pressing it down and up, nothing hits my chest harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokinHawk View Post
    people who use dumbbells are just afraid of benchpressing and loading on some some real weight :P
    nothing like grabbing the bar with it loaded heavy then pressing it down and up, nothing hits my chest harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokinHawk View Post
    people who use dumbbells are just afraid of benchpressing and loading on some some real weight :P
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    Some people on this forum use 100 lb DB's or heavier. Some feel that DB's hit their chest more than the barbell.

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    i haven't benched with a barbell in years. db's hit my chest so much better. plus, i have issues with one of my shoulders when i go bb. the range of motion the db's allow me solves the problem.
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    I alternate; however I love dumbbells as opposed to barbells. In every exercise except decline and squat I prefer DB's. I went to a welding store and had them cut galvinized steel solid core bars for me...my dumbbells go up to 180!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by smokinHawk View Post
    people who use dumbbells are just afraid of benchpressing and loading on some some real weight :P
    nothing like grabbing the bar with it loaded heavy then pressing it down and up, nothing hits my chest harder.
    Maybe you could increase that bench of yours if you used DB's too!

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    I like DB bench press, but I usually do it after BB Bench and 1 other chest movement such as dips or decline BB bench. This way, I don't have to use as heavy of DBs, but I still get the benefits of the movement.

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    they are different. do both.

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    If you are training to get bigger, do whatever feels the best. If you care about strength in terms of powerlifting, then most of your heavy pressing should be done with a barbell.
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    I do both but am fortunate enough to goto a gym that has benches with racks specifically for dumbells. The racks even slide horizonally so as it doesnt get in your way when pressing.
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    I love them both I switch them out back and forth. Whenever I plateau with one I switch to the other, it always breaks my plateau's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeHartD View Post
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    Don't mind him, his spotters suck and he dropped a barbell on his head
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    Quote Originally Posted by arya202 View Post
    If you had access to dumbells why would anyone who wanted a symmetrical body do barbell instead of dumbell bench presses? Am I missing something?
    I think the way most people do dumbell presses is not really so different than the way they barbell bench press. Generally speaking, most people don't use a greater ROM with dumbells - in fact, a lot of people have a smaller ROM because of the plates. Sure, there are differences, but most people (I've seen) who have pain doing barbell bench press, could probably bench pain free if they were willing to make the adjustments necessary, such as tucking the elbows - instead they just use DBs.

    "Why do you believe that DBs somehow give you a more symmetrical body?" would be a better question...
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