The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
Latest Article

The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
More Recent Articles
Contrast Training for Size
By: Lee Boyce
An Interview with Marianne Kane of Girls Gone Strong
By: Jordan Syatt
What Supplements Should I be Taking? By: Jay Wainwright
Bench Like a Girl By: Julia Ladewski
Some Thoughts on Building a Big Pull By: Christopher Mason

Facebook Join Facebook Group       Twitter Follow on Twitter       rss Subscribe via RSS
Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Tricep Help!

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    444

    Tricep Help!

    I've been guilty of doing the same workout over and over and over again. I feel I've grew tremendously from this tricep workout but I would like to see what you guys do / what I can change.

    1. Close Grip Bench (4 sets)
    2. Skullcrushers or Weighted Bench Dips (3-4 sets)
    3. Over the head DB (3 sets)
    4. Rope or Single Arm Pull downs (3 sets

    I always start with Close Grip Bench...It's just a bad habit. I've grown huge triceps from doing this, but I know I can benefit from changing it up since my triceps adapt to the load.

    Also how much would it effect my growth to do smith machine cgbp rather than on the bar? Once or twice I did it on the smith machine, and felt alot better simulation into my triceps.

  2.    Support Wannabebig and use AtLarge Nutrition Supplements!


  3. #2
    Senior Member Howard 9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    1,026
    If your triceps have gown "tremendously" and you have "grown huge triceps" why in the world would you stop?
    [Journal | My Diet]
    [Bench 170x5 | Squat 255x5 | Deadlift 300x5]
    "It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried."

  4. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    444
    Quote Originally Posted by Howard 9 View Post
    If your triceps have gown "tremendously" and you have "grown huge triceps" why in the world would you stop?
    That's why I haven't stopped. But I've read many articles that state your body gets use to the same workouts, and I've been doing this for well over 4 months...So I feel it's time to try something else, and grow bigger?

  5. #4
    Senior Member Howard 9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    1,026
    That argument is so bad. Changing routine should be the last thing into why your not progressing. Your muscles dont know if your doing skulls or and OH extension. If your triceps are still growing they obviously are not getting use to it. And 4 months is not a lot of time. But if they are still growing, why stop?

    CGBP and Weight Dips are staples in most tricep routines, your not gonna find much that is better. Maybe try and switch the reps and sets around.
    [Journal | My Diet]
    [Bench 170x5 | Squat 255x5 | Deadlift 300x5]
    "It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried."

  6. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    444
    Quote Originally Posted by Howard 9 View Post
    That argument is so bad. Changing routine should be the last thing into why your not progressing. Your muscles dont know if your doing skulls or and OH extension. If your triceps are still growing they obviously are not getting use to it. And 4 months is not a lot of time. But if they are still growing, why stop?

    CGBP and Weight Dips are staples in most tricep routines, your not gonna find much that is better. Maybe try and switch the reps and sets around.
    Ya I guess I'll just switch the order. Does it make sense to do CGBP second or third? I always thought it would be pointless not to do that first, since its the most difficult. Can I do skulls first, then cgbp?

  7. #6
    Senior Member Howard 9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    1,026
    Quote Originally Posted by beachmuscles View Post
    Ya I guess I'll just switch the order. Does it make sense to do CGBP second or third? I always thought it would be pointless not to do that first, since its the most difficult. Can I do skulls first, then cgbp?
    You can do whatever you want first, I don't think it really makes that much of a difference since it is all isolation. Personally I always switch off doing CGBP and Weighted Dips so I can progress in each one. Because after one of them my triceps are not as strong for the 2nd excercise.
    [Journal | My Diet]
    [Bench 170x5 | Squat 255x5 | Deadlift 300x5]
    "It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried."

  8. #7
    Grammar Nazi BG5150's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    3,979
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    That said, the reason you felt more action in the tri's on the Smith is that the machine generally takes out the stabilizer muscles on a lot of lifts.

    No dips? Sacrilege!
    There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
    Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
    Are you eating while you are reading this? You should be... --hrdgain81
    Remember, kids, if you type well the Grammar Fairy will leave a quarter under your pillow. The Blue Book of Grammar and Punctuation

    Well, the Blog's (finally) back (again!): Love and Hope and Sex and Dreams Feel free to stop by and comment.
    Here is my newly-created World of Warcraft Blog: BG's WoW Blog. Once again, feel free to stop by and comment.

  9. #8
    Senior Member Twan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    191
    Quote Originally Posted by BG5150 View Post
    That said, the reason you felt more action in the tri's on the Smith is that the machine generally takes out the stabilizer muscles on a lot of lifts.
    So would it be okay to do a cgbp on the smith if you're looking to work your triceps only?

  10. #9
    phil 4:13 Bako Lifter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Bakersfield, CA
    Posts
    2,837
    Quote Originally Posted by Twan View Post
    So would it be okay to do a cgbp on the smith if you're looking to work your triceps only?
    Kaz Press

  11. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    444
    Quote Originally Posted by Twan View Post
    So would it be okay to do a cgbp on the smith if you're looking to work your triceps only?
    For mass in the triceps is Smith Machine just as effective? I feel it 2x more then bar...

    Anyone know?

  12. #11
    Senior Member DSmith22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Stationed in Japan
    Posts
    159

    Smith Machine

    if you fell like the smith machine works better and you feel it more than use it. using it might be helping your form and putting more stress on your tri's. With the reg bench you might be pushing more out useing more shoulders or something and the smith machine can only go up and down one way so that might be the diffrence for you. but one being better than the other there should be no diffrence.

  13. #12
    Training
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    420
    dips...
    Starting over...

  14. #13
    Iron4Life
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Sitting on cold Granite
    Posts
    3,314
    Quote Originally Posted by DSmith22 View Post
    if you fell like the smith machine works better and you feel it more than use it. using it might be helping your form and putting more stress on your tri's. With the reg bench you might be pushing more out useing more shoulders or something and the smith machine can only go up and down one way so that might be the diffrence for you. but one being better than the other there should be no diffrence.
    I don't think this is an accurate statement.. Smith machine forces you into a single plane of motion.. not good for any joint, especially where your shoulders are involved... or your elbow. No one presses in a perfectly straight line... especially bi-laterally.. so those stabilizer benefits that BG mentioned, could be why his triceps are growing so well.

    OP... stick with the CGBPs first or 2nd if you are doing dips..
    I would never put them after your other 3 exercises, b/c they are more isolation... and would probably take away from the weight you can CGBP press.

    And try what Howard says above.. change up sets & reps..
    Heck, try a whole workout of just CGBPs... or of just Dips... changing the weight, reps, grip width between the sets... I've done that and credit it for pushing my BP up and my tricep "thickness" - eventhough I don't really care about that - just the strength... mass is a bonus..

    GL

Similar Threads

  1. chest dip and tricep dip
    By Alexm4601 in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 06-05-2006, 10:19 PM
  2. Incline Tricep Press?
    By dart in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 07-18-2005, 07:52 PM
  3. Bench Press and Tricep Training
    By Keith Wassung in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 02-04-2005, 11:05 PM
  4. Question/help about tricep workout
    By T_Chapman in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 07-30-2004, 10:29 PM
  5. Long head tricep routine
    By nammy in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 05-21-2003, 09:22 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •