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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    I guess I'm making some progress...

    So I've been cutting for what feels like decades. I'm sitting on 236.5 right now. The numbers keep dropping, but I don't see much of a difference between 236 and 256.

    Tonight, I was out at my once-a-month social outing and saw a few people I hadn't in at least a couple of months. I was told by four people tonight that I'd made some great improvement and a couple people didn't even recognize me.

    Last month, my friend's sisters were hitting on me last time I saw them. One of them said that if she hadn't known I was coming, she wouldn't have recognized me.

    Intellectually, I know I'm progressing, but the process is so ****ing slow that it just feels like treading water.
    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
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    I was stuck at 240 forever and then at 230 forever. If you get stuck, just bump up the cardio, and lower the cals. over time you'll lose the weight. And good job with your current standing.
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    Do you think mentally you have a better outlook on things?

    And props on the 20lbs drop, I trying to drop 4% points off my BF and it is kicking my arse, so I can feel the pain.
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    Nice work man, just keep it up. I clocked in at 229.5 this morning and freaked out
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    I'm down to 224ish from about 238 and I still look the same, except for maybe a little more vascularity in my arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkall2003 View Post
    I was stuck at 240 forever and then at 230 forever. If you get stuck, just bump up the cardio, and lower the cals. over time you'll lose the weight. And good job with your current standing.
    I'm not really stuck, it just looks like it because I'm one of the lucky ones that loses fat from everywhere except the gut. I'm starting to see some separation in several places, but I've still got the midsection. It's gotta come off there eventually.

    Quote Originally Posted by BilltheButcher View Post
    Do you think mentally you have a better outlook on things?

    And props on the 20lbs drop, I trying to drop 4% points off my BF and it is kicking my arse, so I can feel the pain.
    Not sure exactly what you mean, but I've got a better outlook on my continued recomposition after hearing that. If it had been one person, I'd have dismissed it as idle chatter...people bull**** like that sometimes. My friend's mom sees me almost weekly and always says something about how I've lost more weight every time I see her.

    I started at 315, so it's actually about an 80 lb drop, and I figure I have about another 15 or so to go. After cutting for about 15 months, hearing that helped my motivation out a little bit.
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    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
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    Progress takes time. That's why you become addicted to training. Keep it up, were all in the same boat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    Not sure exactly what you mean, but I've got a better outlook on my continued recomposition after hearing that.
    Thought you had a thread before about what motivates you or keeps you going when things just seem to just have no point. From these really good results, wondered if things turned for the better.
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    This **** takes time, you know that as well as I do. You don't become fat overnight and you don't become lean overnight either.

    But the progress you already have should be motivating enough to stay the course. I lost 60 pounds and couldn't notice a difference, until I went to put on a pair of jeans and realized I lost 6 pants sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BilltheButcher View Post
    Thought you had a thread before about what motivates you or keeps you going when things just seem to just have no point. From these really good results, wondered if things turned for the better.
    This has helped out. It's good to hear some unsolicited affirmation. Makes you realize that what you're doing is working.
    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
    There is no failure, only feedback.

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    Congrats on the fat loss! It does take a long time, and depending on how the fat gets depleted it may not be most readily visible (to you, at least, since you stare at yourself every day). Take comfort in what others are telling you, though. I can't wait to see what you've done with yourself by next year's Arnold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholy View Post
    Hes gonna be one jacked viking.
    Now I kinda have to be, don't I?
    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
    There is no failure, only feedback.

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    Yup =)
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    Keep at it. As you continue to decrease your bf the difference will become more noticeable for every lb you lose.
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    I agree man. 9-10% is taking me forever to reach. My calipers are showing that I'm losing fat, the scale is showing that I'm losing fat/weight...but I thought I'd see more of a difference in the mirror then I do.
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    Viking how much weight loss were you averaging per week? With say 20-25 bf% what is ideal?
    Starting over...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanbcool View Post
    I agree man. 9-10% is taking me forever to reach. My calipers are showing that I'm losing fat, the scale is showing that I'm losing fat/weight...but I thought I'd see more of a difference in the mirror then I do.
    How true.
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    Keep at it, as it is obviously working for you. I've lost 20 Lbs this year and NOBODY has noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phreak View Post
    Keep at it, as it is obviously working for you. I've lost 20 Lbs this year and NOBODY has noticed.
    The scale did, and in the end, that's what should count.
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    People have noticed that I've lost a ton of weight but I'm still not nearly as cut as I wanted to be or expected to be by now. Over my bulk I was at an overweight bodyfat, now I'm probably just slightly better then average.
    Getting back in the groove
    "I'll tell you a secret. Something they don't teach you in your temple. The Gods envy us. They envy us because we're mortal, because any moment might be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we're doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again." - Achilles, (Troy 2004)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkall2003 View Post
    The scale did, and in the end, that's what should count.
    Of course not! It is about me wearing tight Speedos to the beach, dammit!

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    People dont notice me at all, no matter what..I could walk naked down the street it wouldnt matter.

    And thats why I love bodybuilding, its 100% for my self.
    A big thanks to all my friends in the USA, I am deeply grateful for your hospitality and kindness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al3X View Post
    Viking how much weight loss were you averaging per week? With say 20-25 bf% what is ideal?
    I don't really know. I did some pretty extreme stuff (2 and a half PSMF stints) and then some more moderate stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharkall2003 View Post
    The scale did, and in the end, that's what should count.
    I'd rather see the results in the mirror than on the scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock View Post
    People dont notice me at all, no matter what..I could walk naked down the street it wouldnt matter.

    And thats why I love bodybuilding, its 100% for my self.
    I'm sure people would notice a naked bodybuilder walking down the street.

    I totally do this for myself, but it's cool to have people say something when results are coming so slowly that they're not obvious in the mirror. If others notice, something's working.
    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
    There is no failure, only feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock View Post
    People dont notice me at all, no matter what..I could walk naked down the street it wouldnt matter.

    And thats why I love bodybuilding, its 100% for my self.
    It has a lot to do with where your located rock. In america most men have bigger tities then the women do so you'd stand out like a sore thumb. And if the men aren't complete fatasses they are built like twig men.

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