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Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Calves!

    Is there anything else besides Calf Raises/Reverse Calf Raises that will work these? Does squats work them out as well? I would like to get these suckers HUGE.
    Would like to be able to say "your one rep max is my warmup" someday...

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    Calf raises of all kinds and you can get a weighted vest.
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    Walk/run/skip, thats calf work. Calf raises and squats are too.
    Calves are one of those muscles that you generally have them or you don't. I know it sucks(I don't have any either)
    Training them 'will' help, but don't expect miracles.


    Getting fat seems to have a good carry over to big calves though
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    Calves are hard to build, you are overtraining them everyday. Unless you are naturally big, do sick amounts of training with them (skating, skiing) or can give them the rest they need to grow you are most likely notice some growth but nothing to really get them noticed.

    Although, I did notice they got bigger when I stopped doing calf raises and started sprinting.

    Sorry if this doesn't help I am sure that is not what you wanted to hear!

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    boxing style skipping helps... really good cardio too.
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    Something to keep in mind when working calves:

    They have a remarkable amount of "stretch reflex". So pause at the top for a count of two to three, and at the bottom for a count of three to four.
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    Just walking works them. To answer your question basically anything you do with your legs, the calf's have some part.
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    Do they respond better to higher or lower reps?
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    Alot of plyometrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300for1 View Post
    Do they respond better to higher or lower reps?
    IMO rep ranges of 10+..but with no bounce like BG said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Alot of plyometrics.
    Plyo wont really give you 'Huge' Caves
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    I agree with what was said about reps

    I find for calves it works better to do them in the 10-15 rep range (while pausing at top and bottom as was suggested)
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    I treat my calves like abs, at the end of each work out i do 4 sets of 25 calf raises and that is howi got big calves
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    Want huge calves? Do a normal mid range rep (12, 10, 8, 6..) with heavy weight. Although, you won't grow if your not feeding your body the protein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power-House View Post
    I treat my calves like abs, at the end of each work out i do 4 sets of 25 calf raises and that is howi got big calves
    They must be huge at 155lbs Treat your abs (yes and calves too) like any other muscle in your body. Hit it once or twice a week heavy and hard.
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    Someone mentioned "stretch reflex"
    That's the biggest killer right there.
    Your Achilles Tendon is very flexible and from watching 90% of people lift this is how they move the weight around.
    1)Drop the weight.
    2)Slow it down.2-3 sec pause at the top and bottom.
    3)Use as full of a range of motion as possible.
    Bam, there you go. mine are nothing remarkable now but they are improving drastically because of this. Veins all over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatred View Post
    Someone mentioned "stretch reflex"
    That's the biggest killer right there.
    Your Achilles Tendon is very flexible and from watching 90% of people lift this is how they move the weight around.
    1)Drop the weight.
    2)Slow it down.2-3 sec pause at the top and bottom.
    3)Use as full of a range of motion as possible.
    Bam, there you go. mine are nothing remarkable now but they are improving drastically because of this. Veins all over.
    i deffently dont see 90% of the people doing that. most of the people i see in the gym are bouncing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey4402 View Post
    i deffently dont see 90% of the people doing that. most of the people i see in the gym are bouncing.
    ESPECIALLY the calves...
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    Want big Calves? Do ballet.

    My girlfriend is a professsional ballet dancer, and has remarkably muscular calves. In a good way. I think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey4402 View Post
    i deffently dont see 90% of the people doing that. most of the people i see in the gym are bouncing.
    I think he meant that 90% of people use the elasticity of their achilles tendon to lift the weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawf View Post
    Want big Calves? Do ballet.

    My girlfriend is a professsional ballet dancer, and has remarkably muscular calves. In a good way. I think!
    This is true. It's because they are on their toes all the time.

    Personally, I've had great success building my calves by just doing a few heavy sets per week with my leg workout of standing calf raises and seated calf raises for 2-3 sets of 7-10 reps being careful to pause at top and bottom to eliminate the achilles "bounce" stretch (as BG suggested). They've grown over 2.5 inches doing this. Gaining lots of weight also helps.
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    Keep in mind that there are two muscles in the calf.

    One is worked by Calf Raises and the other by Seated Calf Raises

    Not sure what reverse calf raises are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LevesqueIsKing View Post
    Keep in mind that there are two muscles in the calf.

    One is worked by Calf Raises and the other by Seated Calf Raises

    Not sure what reverse calf raises are...
    That is why you should do both, to work both the soleus and gastrocnemius muscles. Reverse calf raises are to work the antagonist muscles in the front of the lower legs (the tibialis anterior) which are worked by having the heel on a platform and trying to move the toes up toward the knee. The tibialis anterior doesn't really need any special work, however, because it acts as a stabilizer in many movements, such as squatting. If you really want to work it, just incorporate some single-leg movements like pistols (single leg squats).
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