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Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    potatoes

    Are potatoes good for a cut? and has anyone here tried HIIT?

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    Depends on how they fit in to your diet and how they are prepared. Baked, fried, sweet, red, mashed, golden, covered in butter, etc.

    Yes, tons of people have.
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    "Mr. Potato head does not appreciate being eaten on a cut."

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    i prefer sweet potatoes
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    Quote Originally Posted by getfit View Post
    i prefer sweet potatoes
    Both have there place on a cut, just like almost any food.

    To the OP, you should do a lot more reading before asking questions such as this. Once you understand how basic nutrition works you will realize that you can eat almost anything as long as you hit certain macros and your desired calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweitz View Post
    Are potatoes good for a cut? and has anyone here tried HIIT?
    White Potatoes......Baked have a GI rating of 100. Which means that I would not recommend them at any time(post workout maybe). Let alone a cut. Sweet Potatoes on the other hand ironically enough are alot less I think between 59-69...but at the end of the day if you burned more cals then you ate you are still cutting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholy View Post
    Both have there place on a cut, just like almost any food.

    To the OP, you should do a lot more reading before asking questions such as this. Once you understand how basic nutrition works you will realize that you can eat almost anything as long as you hit certain macros and your desired calories.
    So you answer on your second post because your busy being a smart ass on the first. Awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBossMan View Post
    White Potatoes......Baked have a GI rating of 100. Which means that I would not recommend them at any time(post workout maybe). Let alone a cut. Sweet Potatoes on the other hand ironically enough are alot less I think between 59-69...but at the end of the day if you burned more cals then you ate you are still cutting.
    Baked Potato with Cottage Cheese and salsa is great.If you can fit it into your cutting calories, then im all for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questor View Post
    Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.
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    Eat which ever one you want. The difference between a sweet potato and a yukon (yellow) potato is negligible. Just like white and brown rice. I alternate and the only difference I notice is taste. Sometimes I use ground oats instead.. Always about a 45-60min before I work out. Feel free to worry more about the rest of your diet and training than the GI index of a ****ing potato - results will follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Questor View Post
    Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.
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    Couldn't have said it any better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBossMan View Post
    White Potatoes......Baked have a GI rating of 100. Which means that I would not recommend them at any time(post workout maybe). Let alone a cut. Sweet Potatoes on the other hand ironically enough are alot less I think between 59-69...but at the end of the day if you burned more cals then you ate you are still cutting.
    Until you lather it in butter. Or cheese, or olive oil etc.

    GI isn't that big of deal. Mainly because it's based off of the potato by itself. Who eats a potato plain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBossMan View Post
    White Potatoes......Baked have a GI rating of 100. Which means that I would not recommend them at any time(post workout maybe). Let alone a cut. Sweet Potatoes on the other hand ironically enough are alot less I think between 59-69...but at the end of the day if you burned more cals then you ate you are still cutting.
    GI is obselete.

    White potatoes are #1 on the satiety index and have a low glycemic load.

    One of my #1 cutting foods and I'm not exactly a high calorie guy, I diet on 3000-3500. They are nutritious and filling. Can't beat them for a cut.
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    I don't see how mixing the food would change the outcome of the effect on blood glucose levels??? If this is the case then maybe my dextrose/protein/milk pwo shake isn't as effective as I thought.... Can you explain how this works
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBossMan View Post
    I don't see how mixing the food would change the outcome of the effect on blood glucose levels??? If this is the case then maybe my dextrose/protein/milk pwo shake isn't as effective as I thought.... Can you explain how this works
    It totally changes it. And yes Dex/Protein/milk is definitely overrated. Yes technically its optimal but as Belial has pointed out in previous threads. As long as you eat something post workout you are fine. to 99% of the people on these forums it won't make a difference whether they have a PWO shake or a snickers bar after they work out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBossMan View Post
    I don't see how mixing the food would change the outcome of the effect on blood glucose levels??? If this is the case then maybe my dextrose/protein/milk pwo shake isn't as effective as I thought.... Can you explain how this works
    A food only raises blood glucose as indicated by the GI if you eat the food

    1) By itself
    2) Exactly 50 grams of digestible carbohydrate

    Fat takes longer to clear the stomach than carbs or fat. Mixing potatoes with fat delays gastric emptying and totally destroys the relevance of GI.

    Trust us. GI is obselete. The only way to even reasonably determine the glycemic response of a meal is to calculate the glycemic load for each food and then average them. Glycemic load takes into account serving size, GI does not. One of many reasons why its not usefull for anything.

    Carrots are another food that people are told to avoid while dieting because of a high GI. Any idea the quantity of carrots it takes to get 50 grams of digestible carbohydrate?

    If potatoes are low in calories and filling they are a GREAT food for cutting. You are not going to put on weight because of some hidden magic decrypted by GI.

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    Both have there place, but they have alotta carbs so i dont really think so!!!

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    I think that if you have no blood glucose isssues then eat what ever carbs you like.If you have issues like me than youll really see results with better carb selections.

    After my PWO dex shake I get super low blood sugar an hour later and wanna hit burger king for a fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggins View Post
    I think that if you have no blood glucose isssues then eat what ever carbs you like.If you have issues like me than youll really see results with better carb selections.

    After my PWO dex shake I get super low blood sugar an hour later and wanna hit burger king for a fix.
    If you haven't already you should read up on 'resting insulin levels'.

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    What about carbs that contain sugar...IE cookies and fat or blueberry preserves...I had been craving some cookies and after our discussion here went to town on some last night figuring eh they have fat in them and whole wheat I shouldn't worry about the insulin spike....oddly enough I seemed to have lost more fat after pigging out some cookies last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBossMan View Post
    What about carbs that contain sugar...IE cookies and fat or blueberry preserves...I had been craving some cookies and after our discussion here went to town on some last night figuring eh they have fat in them and whole wheat I shouldn't worry about the insulin spike....oddly enough I seemed to have lost more fat after pigging out some cookies last night.
    If I eat junk food I specifically look for fat content. For example chocolate covered almonds will disrupt my blood sugar much less than an Aero bar.

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    The other thing to look at with "sugar" is fructose. Sucrose is half glucose/half fructose. Starches are glucose polymers - the stuff you want.

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