somefuka
08-24-2002, 10:30 AM
I interested in finding out more about prohormone supplementation. I have heard different opinions on their effectiveness/safeness etc, can anyone offer me any info? Anyone know a good site that explains them in great detail?
Thanks
zwarrior99
08-24-2002, 12:26 PM
1-ad do a search on that and 1-test and 4-ad.\
Blood&Iron
08-24-2002, 05:36 PM
Read the current WBB roundtable.
zwarrior99
08-24-2002, 07:05 PM
ya forgot about the WBB roundtable
Originally posted by TreeTrunks
Simply, they're crap
I'd say that's a false statement. Depends on what your comparing it to, the newer prohormones, like 1-test, 1-ad, 4-ad, have been shown to have very effective results.
Here's some general info on prohormones:
What are the differences between the prohormones? 1-AD is a precursor to the hormone 1-testosterone, various oral products are made, oral is the preferred way of taking.
1-test(osterone) is a hormone it is not the same thing as testosterone, again many companies make it, most effective have been either a transdermal or 1 T ehtergels. Oral 1-test has not shown to be as effective as the transdermal or ethergels.
4-AD is a precursor to testosterone, stacks very well with 1-AD or 1-test, transdermal are considered most effective or high oral doses in the 500-1000mg a day range. 1,4 andro is a precursor to boldenone, taken orally at 400-600mg a day, can also be stacked with 1-AD or 1-test and 4-AD. Nor-diol is a precursor to nandrolone, doses vary, low on side effects.
5-aa is a precursor to DHT, taken at doses of 200-300mg a day, works well as a anti-estrogen during your cycle, however it can be hard on your hair line.
Will 1-AD or 1-test give me gyno? Neither 1-AD or 1-test aromatizes, so during your cycle you don have to worry, although some have reported gyno while taking it, it is rare.
Post cycle its possible to get gyno due to a sort of rebound effect. You were supplying your body with a different form of test so natural production stops. During your cycle your body starts producing more estrogen, once you stop taking 1-test your estrogen levels are still elevated and could then cause gyno. So a anti-estrogen post cycle would probably be a good idea, especially on longer cycles of 6-8 weeks.
What do I take post-cycle? Cycles of 4 weeks or less ZMA and tribulus are usually enough to help get your natural test levels up. Longer cycles you may want to look into clomid or nolvadex. How long should my cycle be? There have been good results with cycles of 2 weeks on 3 off etc. for a total of 8 weeks. The theory being short two week cycles wouldn shut your natural test down to badly. 4 weeks seem to be about the norm, long enough to see some good gains and doesn take to long to recover after. 8 week cycles should be done by the advanced BBer and should be treated like a anabolic steroid cycle with typical clomid and nolvadex for after.
somefuka
08-26-2002, 06:08 AM
Ok thanks for the replies, it seems to me taking hormones has the same hassle as AS without such big gains?! I think ill look into it more though, need to know as much as i can. Thanks again
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