insulin

[pearl]

hi
i need some advice on insulin
i have plenty of actrapid- is 6 hours insulin
also plenty of mixtard, 12 hours slow and fast mix

what kind shoud i use?
i have steroids, t3 but no GH
is there any use without GH?

[tony touch]

slin is not something to **** around with man.

if ur bulking for a major competition or somethin of that nature, then there is a wealth of information on the subject that u can research.

if ur doin this because u just wanna put on some extra weight along with some growth and anabolics, dont **** with it.

a friend of mine went permanently blind in one eye from misusing slin

[tony touch]

by the way, i wouldnt use t3 with slin but thats just my opinion.

slin is a bulking tool but can b used very synergistically with growth hormone

[BIGDUDE]

the kinds of insulin you have arent even the kind used by bodybuilders for the purpose of building muscle, with those you will end up in a coma or fat as hell. do you even know how to time your simple carbs? or how many grams per iu you should injest?

[Severed Ties]

Actrapid is humulin R just made by another company.

ST

[BIGDUDE]

never heard of that company, my mistake, but, outside of that i stand by my post.... you have to know what you are doing before you jump on insulin.

[Severed Ties]

Originally posted by BIGDUDE
never heard of that company, my mistake, but, outside of that i stand by my post.... you have to know what you are doing before you jump on insulin.

Definetly agree with you there and in this case he certainly has no business using insulin so I didn't really have anything else to add.


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[pearl]

1. thanks for the advice, but that was not what i wanted.
i am aware of dangers surrounding insulin
i have a glucometer and glucagon shots so i think coma is out of
the question

2. i know guys who used it and even with some big mistakes like not eating the carbs after the shot and then going to sleep etc.
so i'm aware of what can happen

3. actrapid is as fast as humulin R, big dude, so if you did not heard of it that doesn't mean it not good. a wieight lifter here goes up to 40 ius per day, i don't even dream of going that high...

4. as for insulin and carbs you guys should know that some can take 4 iu's others 40 iu's
i was going to start reeally slow, only after training, and using the glucometer to test my blood levels verry often
so i will calculate my carb intake using the glucometer so...

5. i really needed the advice on hgh

i'm NOT going to do it, i'm just researching, i did alot of research on the net, i just needed some oppinions

[Severed Ties]

40iu's just shows how little that idiot knows about what he is doing. There is never any reason to go over 15iu's, once you are beyond that point your body is making itself insulin resistant (diabetic) to cope with the huge amount of insulin.

Personally I don't like insulin...it just makes me fat...no matter what. I think it is mainly a tool for people who have a hard time gaining weight...but for an endo like myself I will never use it again.

Anyway what are your questions about HGH, there are so many FAQ's about I'm sure you must want to know something specific?


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[tony touch]

ST- Dave palumbo has the exact same theory. Slin is great for the hardgainer, skinnier type of bodybuilders. wouldnt use it if u bulk easily

[pearl]

you are right, the guy is an idiot...
sould i tell you about 20 ephedins per day?
1 gram per day of testosterone?
40dbols per day...
alcohol use the same time with those?
i gave him as an example because he is powerlifting champion here, huge guy and verry strong

about insuling and fat, you are right
as for the GH the only problem was: i know that gh may induce diabetes and promotes fat loss.
so if they work sinergistically, are them useful taken separately?
i wanted your oppinion, not a scientific study because i read alot

[Belial]

Yes, they're useful taken separately.

I dunno if this has been said, since I just scanned, but NEVER ***** around with anything other than humulin-R (or another 6 hour release)... Humalog is the best if you can get it. Anything longer acting than that can really bite you in the ass.

[pearl]

that's what i needed to know
i asked around but 6 hours is the fastest i cand get now, i will keep searching...

and short story about how i got the insulin:
a friend of mine is diabetic and he piled up a stock for a couple of years in advance...
now his doctor changed the insulin he is taking, so he remained with a few hundred thousand IU's in the fridge...
half 6 hours half 12 hours...

[Severed Ties]

Originally posted by tony touch
ST- Dave palumbo has the exact same theory. Slin is great for the hardgainer, skinnier type of bodybuilders. wouldnt use it if u bulk easily

Lately I agree with a great deal of what he writes, I remember a year ago I thought a lot of his opinions were horribly misinformed. So I'm wondering if he used to have someone ghost write for him and then realized the guy was a complete idiot.


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[BIGDUDE]

i use slin at a max of 12iu, twice per day. thats 24iu per day. i can gain 15-20lbs from that if i go 4-5 weeks on it. there is no way you can add more weight than that on slin without it being purely fat in 4-5 weeks. i hear of guys going double, even quadrouple that per day, thats is rediculous. its not only rediculous, its dangerous as hell. if i can gain 20lbs in 4-5 weeks using about 20iu per day, there is no way anyone can tell me its better to use 50-100iu per day.

[Fudomyo]

*cough*

15-20 lbs off of just slin?

damn yo

[Severed Ties]

I could gain about 15-20 pounds of fat off slin,lol.


ST