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porto_6
08-31-2005, 09:12 PM
I've been thinking about doing it for a long time now and i've been researching this subject for a couple of weeks now and i'm considering taking ephedrine. Before stacking 24mg/200mg of EC 3 times a day, is it recommended that i slowly move my way up to that, and if yes, what would be the best phase. Also, should the intensity of my workouts be reduced while stacking EC?

Shao-LiN
08-31-2005, 09:19 PM
Work your way up...feel it out. Start with one dose a day, and if you feel fine, bump it up one more dose, etc. until you reach your intended daily dosage.

With your workouts, again, feel it out. If you don't feel like you're going to have a stroke, have at it.

drew
08-31-2005, 09:27 PM
Also, be sure that you're in a cutting phase. You'll get fantastic results.

chronic01
09-01-2005, 12:58 AM
while this is brought i was wondering if its alright to take ephederine while taking thermocin
couldnt find any solid answers off using caffenine supplememnt with ephederine

Tony H
09-01-2005, 02:32 AM
Is ephedrine the drug that the grandma in Requiem For A Dream was taking? It was some sort of speed, wasn't it?

Little_G
09-01-2005, 08:25 AM
What is it ephedrine some sort of steroid or something?

Canadian Crippler
09-01-2005, 08:51 AM
Haha. No, it's a stimulant.

FighterInSnatch
09-01-2005, 01:21 PM
What is it ephedrine some sort of steroid or something?

Priceless.

Yes, its a very yummy tasting stimulant. Try chewing them, mmmmmmm.



P.S. Chewing ephedrine will make ur face gooo :eek: Do not try it.

Little_G
09-01-2005, 01:46 PM
Lol never heard of the stuff.

malkore
09-01-2005, 01:55 PM
Ephedra, ephedrine, mua huang extract/alkaloids...all under fire for 2 years by the FDA.
think back 2 summers ago, when a couple football players died during practice...remember that?
yep, they were double dosing ephedra, not drinking water, wearing full pads, practicing for 8 hours in 105 degree heat...oh yeah and were very overweight. so they had heart attacks and died.
Had to be the ephedra...no way morbidly obese men wearing thick armor, in the heat for 8 hours would naturally have a heart attack. nope.

Shao-LiN
09-01-2005, 07:05 PM
Though the ephedra didn't exactly help the situation.

gmanky
09-01-2005, 10:25 PM
I have heard that the methamphetamine angle was a big part of the push to ban ephedra.

Shao-LiN
09-01-2005, 10:30 PM
Yes, that was a part of it. Even now, you are limited to the amount of ephedrine you can buy at one time.

porto_6
09-04-2005, 01:10 PM
i was suggested to stack EC with Razor8. Contains black pepper extract. It is suppose to work great with the EC stack.

getfit
09-04-2005, 01:11 PM
what's razor8?

HILL
09-04-2005, 01:14 PM
first web site
Side effects
Side effects can manifest themselves in the form of more rapid heart beat, insomnia, tremors (light trembling of the fingers), headaches, dizziness, high blood pressure, and lack of appetite. The last characteristic, however, is much appreciated by athletes on a diet. Ephedrine must not be taken when high blood pressure, a severe hyperfunction of the thyroid gland, irregular heart rhythm, or a recent myocardiac infarction are present.
In Europe Ephedrine is a prescription drug which is mostly available in combination with other substances. Such a combination compound, for example, is the German drug Perspiran N, which contain an additional 25 mg Ephedrine hydrochioride and 125 mg tlieopriyiline per tablet. Theophylline increases the effect of Ephedrine.
The Spanish Efedrina Level of Laboratorio Level S.A. Company can be found on the black market. A 50 mg tablet usually costs $10. The tablets are indented, with "EFEDRINA" stamped on the back. Twenty-four tablets are packaged in a small white plastic box with a pull-off label. The substance Ephedrine hydrochioride is not a prescription drug and is freely available while other stimulants and medicines used in sports are either unavailable or available only at high risk on the black market. In special magazines for bodybuilders one can always find adds freely offering Ephedrine. Until the time that this condition changes, Ephedrine is of no importance on the black market.



Ephedrine belongs to the group of sympathomimetics. Although it is not a hormone compound, we would still like to describe it briefly since it offers the athlete three interesting effects.
How it works
First, Ephedrine has clear fat burning characteristics. On the one hand, this occurs since Ephedrine produces heat in the body (thermogenesis). Simplified, Ephedrine slightly increases the body temperature so that the body burns more calories than usual. On the other hand, Ephedrine stimulates the thyroid gland to transform the weaker LT-4 (L-thyroxine) into the stronger LT-3 (liothyronine), thus accelerating the metabolism.
Dosages
The fat burning effect, with the additional intake of both methylzanthine caffeine and aspirin, can almost be doubled. Scientific research has shown that the combination of 25 mg Ephedrine, 200 mg caffeine, and 300 mg aspirin is ideal to produce a synergetic effect. Those who apply this combination three times daily, approximately 30 minutes prior to a meal, will significantly burn fat.
Competing bodybuilders have appreciated this for quite some time. Second, Ephedrine has anti catabolic characteristics. Thus it is especially useful for maintaining the muscle system while dieting.
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Finally, athletes often use Ephedrine as a "training booster." Since it has a mild amphetamine-like effect on the central nervous system (CNS) it improves the concentration, vigilance, and the interplay of nerves and muscles. For this purpose, 25-50 mg Ephedrine are taken approximately one hour before a workout.

The athlete feels an immediate boost in energy which during workout can manifest itself in a 5-10% increase in strength. Again, also in this case, the effect can be improved by taking caffeine and aspirin (s.a.).It is important to note that Ephedrine, administered for this purpose, is not to be taken more than three times a week; otherwise, the body gets accustomed to it and the "boost effect" decreases, and much higher dosages are needed.

porto_6
09-05-2005, 09:45 AM
What do you guys think about stacking it with EC like I was recommended to do? Contains an extra 123mg of caffeine which would add up to 323mg in the stack.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/all/raz.html

Unreal
09-05-2005, 12:13 PM
Depends on your body. I know when I was on EC, if I drank my normal load of coffee in the morning I would really really feel it. I had to dial it back. Everyone responds different. You may not notice anything, or maybe a jittery mess with a small dose of ephedra. Start slow, take it easy.

chronic01
04-04-2006, 11:45 PM
so how long should you go on ephederine before you stop
like 2 weeks of the doses mentioned above?

Dargo
04-06-2006, 05:42 AM
I'm currently taking X-Lean which is a 10mg to 100mg ratio of ephedrine and caffeine. It definatley makes you peppy. Also, it seems to be helping my weight loss. Just my .02