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Bam Bam
12-29-2001, 03:49 PM
i have actually been reading today and from what i have researched this acid will help you lose fat and build muscle has anyoen tried it??

The_Chicken_Daddy
01-06-2002, 09:20 AM
where did you read that?

From what i can gather it may be beneficial to obese people and those fighting cancer, but can actually induce insulin resisitance in "healthy thing" people.

Diabetes, September 2000 Volume 49, Number 9
Conjugated Linoleic Acid Supplementation Reduces Adipose Tissue by Apoptosis and Develops Lipodystrophy in Mice
Nobuyo Tsuboyama-Kasaoka, Mayumi Takahashi, Kentaro Tanemura, Hyoun-Ju Kim, Tsuyoshi Tange Hitoshi Okuyama, Masaaki Kasai, Shinji Ikemoto, Osamu Ezaki

Conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) is a naturally occurring group of dienoic derivatives of linoleic acid found in beef and dairy products. CLA has been reported to reduce body fat. To examine the mechanism(s) of CLA reduction of fat mass, female C57BL/6J mice were fed standard semipurified diets (10% fat of total energy) with or without CLA (1% wt/wt). Terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase-mediated dUTP-biotin nick end-labeling (TUNEL) and DNA fragmentation analysis revealed that fat-mass decrease by CLA was mainly due to apoptosis.
Tumor necrosis factor (TNF)- and uncoupling protein (UCP)-2 mRNA levels increased 12- and 6-fold, respectively, in isolated adipocytes from CLA-fed mice compared with control mice. Because it is known that TNF- induces apoptosis of adipocytes and upregulates UCP2 mRNA, a marked increase of TNF- mRNA with an increase of UCP2 in adipocytes caused CLA-induced apoptosis. However, with a decrease of fat mass, CLA supplementation resulted in a state resembling lipoatrophic diabetes: ablation of brown adipose tissue, a marked reduction of white adipose tissue, marked hepatomegaly, and marked insulin resistance. CLA supplementation decreased blood leptin levels, but continuous leptin infusion reversed hyperinsulinemia, indicating that leptin depletion contributes to the development of insulin resistance. These results demonstrate that intake of CLA reduces adipose tissue by apoptosis and results in lipodystrophy, but hyperinsulinemia by CLA can be normalized by leptin administration. Diabetes 49:1534–1542, 2000


but research is always finding out new things and contradicting yesterday's revolutionary breakthrough, so this will prolly be proved wrong in the future :rolleyes:

Bam Bam
01-06-2002, 09:22 AM
thanks cd i think i heard it from your daddy bill phillips :D

The_Chicken_Daddy
01-06-2002, 10:19 AM
you mean pauly's punch bag right? :)

was he mentioning his cla brand at the same time?

Bam Bam
01-06-2002, 10:44 AM
lol i dont think he actually did it was a research peice but if i went on it would probably hav given the price of his compared to all others and that they were fake and his was a super mixture

The_Chicken_Daddy
01-06-2002, 10:48 AM
you're prolly right.

btw, my apologies fo the long wait for a response.